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anygunanywhere wrote: I keep hearing this "repeal the second amendment" stuff.

The Constitution and BOR enumerate rights that pre-existed the document. These rights are God given and cannot be taken away. Even if the second amendment were repealed the right to keep and bear arms will still exist. It will just be more improtant to exercise the RKBA before it gets this far.

Anygunanywhere

I would much rather see them try to appeal the 2nd Amendment. It would never pass. They don't have enough blue States to do it and they know it. Instead, they will do what they always do - end run the Constitution and, just like Chicago, pass something that they know isn't Constitutional. The question will be as to whether SCOTUS would sell us out again or not.

mayor wrote:will you turn your guns in, or register them - if you had any? I know I wouldn't, if I had any.

Me, too. The ones that I had fell in the river off the raft.

I never considered myself to be a conspiracy theorist. I have not held in high esteem those who bring forth tin foil hat style arguments but I'm beginning to slip into that abyss.

The President has done a great job of dividing the GOP over the fiscal cliff crisis. I'm beginning to wonder if the idea behind the gun grabbing isn't intended to do the same with the American public. The choice seems to be 1) become completely subservient or 2) become an outlaw. The tin foil hat part of my thinking believes that the fusion centers, detention centers, etc are being designed to deal with the 2nd group. There is no question at all in my mind that if Feinstein and the others had their way, we would be part of a world government. The real open question is to whether they have enough of the American populace sufficiently conditioned to accept that result. Of course, it is going to take a financial collapse to actually bring this direction to fruition but I fear that we are much closer to that than all of the Obama groupies believe.

The conspiracy theory believer part of me believes that that Sandy Hook shooting provided the catalyst for reinstating the gun ban rhetoric. Armed resistance to gun bans would be the catalyst and the excuse for an immediate transition to marshal law. There is no hiding the fact that our President believes it would be easier to govern like the Chinese Communists or Chavez and that he would seize the moment to try to accomplish those results.

Pardon me - I'm now busy opening my next king sized tin foil package.