I'm really confused. One of the other signs that I've seen in places is something to the effect that "alcohol cannot be consumed beyond this point." I always assumed that was because the TABC issued the temporary permit for a specific square footage. For example, I don't think that one can purchase a beer from one of the vendors in the Grapevine festival and wonder up and down the streets consuming it. This would cover the beer garden kind of environment. To issue the red temporary license for the whole of Grapevine seems just sloppy. I doubt that they want the alcohol consumed just anywhere but I could be wrong.Keith B wrote:These temporary venues are a real issue. The problem comes down to what physical area the vendor who is issued the RED license has covered for alcohol consumption in permit. If they have a beer garden area and that is what the license was issued for, then that area would be off limits. If TABC let them get a license that covers all of Wurstfest, then technically you would be in a RED area and illegally carrying. I don't know for sure if TABC will issue multiple vendors a license that overlaps physical areas and covers the entire grounds. If they do, then who trumps who, RED or BLUE?
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- Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:40 pm
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Re: New Braunfels Wurstfest: GUN SIGN=BLUE
- Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:18 am
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Re: New Braunfels Wurstfest: GUN SIGN=BLUE
Isn't the discussion at this point really about whether or not Wurstfest can subvert the meaning of the 51%? If and when they decide to post a 30.06 sign, that becomes a different discussion. If they are privately owned, they have the option to post a 30.06. If they elect not to do that, their property is open to CC.
TABC signs have specific meanings and those meanings have been codified in the TPC.
It is no our responsibility to education Wurstfest about the TPC or the TABC. If they elect not to educate themselves and are unable to carry out their own wishes because of it, too bad. It is not in our best interests to help they fix their mistakes and pointing out those mistakes is part of fixing that problem.
That said, I won't want to be the one who is "apprehended" walking past the 51% sign. It could be expensive, though it should be a situation that should be decided in the favor of the CHL. The TABC license should be the final arbiter regardless of the sign on fence. It would, of course, be icing on the cake if TABC would cite Wurstfest for deliberately posting the wrong sign (as evidenced by a CHL prosecution) at the same time. Politics being what it is, I won't hold my breath waiting on that result.
TABC signs have specific meanings and those meanings have been codified in the TPC.
It is no our responsibility to education Wurstfest about the TPC or the TABC. If they elect not to educate themselves and are unable to carry out their own wishes because of it, too bad. It is not in our best interests to help they fix their mistakes and pointing out those mistakes is part of fixing that problem.
That said, I won't want to be the one who is "apprehended" walking past the 51% sign. It could be expensive, though it should be a situation that should be decided in the favor of the CHL. The TABC license should be the final arbiter regardless of the sign on fence. It would, of course, be icing on the cake if TABC would cite Wurstfest for deliberately posting the wrong sign (as evidenced by a CHL prosecution) at the same time. Politics being what it is, I won't hold my breath waiting on that result.