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TAM, while one anecdote does not a story make, I was visiting a friend in Robson Ranch and engaged in a conversation with one of her neighbors. I know that the place is a bastion of Red Conservatives but was shocked to find the neighbor was a Liberal retired professor who voluntarily moved to Texas and bought a home in Robson. OK, there are always outliers I told myself. Then I started talking to his neighbor and found out that she was a MILITANT flaming lib. That is two in the same block Driving through Robson Ranch, there were surprisingly more Biden/Harris signs that I would have dreamed.

My point is while you are probably correct that most of the people who voluntarily move to Texas are not re-planted Liberals, some are. I believe that they are coming and are drawn to places like Austin, San Antonio, Houston and Dallas. If they are going to try to infiltrate a place like Robson Ranch, they don't follow your logic.

wil wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:01 am

Myself I moved back here over a decade ago, after doing so and knowing what it takes to make a change such as that. I tend to think those who are doing likewise are of the mindset to escape the insanity of the entrenched democrat socialism.
I find it difficult to think someone who believes in what that state represents overall and agrees with such a thing would go to the length of leaving. Only those who have read the writing on the wall and realize the only option is to escape via leaving would deliberately uproot their lives and come here.

When I moved here in '88, it was a corporate relocation. Granted, I was doing it voluntarily because I had worked here part time for several of the preceding years and loved what i had experienced. But that isn't always that case when I business moves - and many are. I don't have any idea how many of the businesses are bringing people with them but I'd guess the numbers could be significant.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/23/why-com ... ornia.html

I wonder how many people that are packing up and moving have figured out that if you voted differently, you won't have had to leave. Yes, I know that the big cities and their drone populations make a difference but if the participation rate of CA voters and approached 50%, they likely wouldn't have elected Newsom in the first place.