I have friends, a couple, who caught the virus in the middle of an 1,100 acre farm in the corn belt. No one around for miles except the farmer who was driving them around in his pickup - and was infected. For me, that confirms that the virus is transmitted in closed spaces with infected people. But this isn't my point.RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:45 am
1. The antibodies produced from the vaccine can be 10x the antibodies that exist in a convalescent patient.
2. The second dose of vaccine is intended to induce a greater T-cell response. This should (still being studied) give your immune system a longer "memory" should it encounter the virus again. Immunity from vaccination "should" last longer than immunity from having had COVID but no vaccination.
Again... Studies are ongoing.
Back on topic.... I have had 2 x Moderna and I'm still wearing a mask in indoor public spaces.
1. To protect myself from variants, since efficacy of the Moderna vax against the SA varient is less.
2. To protect others from the possibility of vaccinated people still being able to transmit the virus (unlikely LINK, but still being studied)
That same couple now has both of the Moderna shots. And they still wear masks. Whom are they protecting and from what? I've questioned the asymptomatic spread of Covid since the beginning. I do realize and a few hours can make a difference in whether there are symptoms presenting. I was fine a 9am and suddenly at noon, I have symptoms. Was I able to transmit the virus in that span? But where is the scientific evidence that some who had and recovered from Covid can spread it? Where is the scientific validation that someone who had and recovered from Covid AND had the two shot series against it has any chance at all of picking it up again and passing it on to someone else. At what point is this just plain ridiculous?
I look at things in a "big animal chart" way. We have 50 States, many of whom have handled things differently regarding masks and other restrictions. Some never did - and the apocalyptic predictions from our best experts about that conduct never came close to being accurate. One might attribute Florida's results to their better weather which allows for being outside more than somewhere like N.J. But the spikes came during the Summer when that difference in climate shouldn't have been as significant. The medical officials were laser focused on masks and most people who contract the disease are not treated for it. Why? The death numbers are significant - until you start unlayering them and realize that some were forced by shoving infected into vulnerable populations. A good friend's mother passed away recently in a nursing home. While her death certificate says "Covid" and she did have it, she was asymptomatic for the disease, was 90 years old and had been in failing health. Her case is not alone. Where are the studies which identify the characteristics of the individuals who had the most severe symptoms or who died from Covid versus those who had limited symptoms? It is as though there is no effort at all to mitigate or anticipate the symptoms. No other illness that i know about other than things like the common cold seems to be treated in such a cavalier manner. Yes, I believe that virus is serious and can be deadly. It should be taken seriously.
All that said, Asia seems prone to done masks in the population at the drop of the hat. Someone doesn't feel well and they wear one. It would seem to help until you look at the statistics for Covid in Japan. They never did what we did and their environment would seem to be an incubator for Covid. It would seem to be a great example to study versus our country. Where is that study effort? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53188847