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by rickb308
Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:57 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Need suggestions
Replies: 16
Views: 3443

txinvestigator wrote:
rickb308 wrote:
dolanp wrote:I think OC is a good idea even if you carry a gun because if some guy comes at you unarmed and starts trouble for whatever reason you can't really shoot him.
OC is some places could work against you. Literally.
(Wind, tight quarters, ie., elevator, etc.)

Folding baton (ASP Style) or blackjack.
Penal code 46.15 (b) (6)

New thread? Applicability of Penal code 46.15 (b) (6)?
The baton issue is two-fold.

1. Unless you have been trained in non-lethal baton use of force, baton use is most likely to be deadly force. TPC 9.01

(3) "Deadly force" means force that is intended or known by
the actor to cause, or in the manner of its use or intended use is
capable of causing, death or serious bodily injury.

TPC 1.07

(46) "Serious bodily injury" means bodily injury that creates
a substantial risk of death or that causes death, serious permanent
disfigurement, or protracted loss or impairment of the function of any
bodily member or organ.


2. And although 46.15 of the Penal Code states

(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:

(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license
issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a
concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is
carrying;


One might argue that if you are carrying a handgun under the CHL laws, then ALL of 46.02 does not apply; however, notice that in other sections, no such language as "is carry a handgun" is used.

Actually, moved/re-asked this question under the "Carry Issues" forum.
by rickb308
Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:47 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Need suggestions
Replies: 16
Views: 3443

dolanp wrote:I think OC is a good idea even if you carry a gun because if some guy comes at you unarmed and starts trouble for whatever reason you can't really shoot him.
OC is some places could work against you. Literally.
(Wind, tight quarters, ie., elevator, etc.)

Folding baton (ASP Style) or blackjack.
Penal code 46.15 (b) (6)

New thread? Applicability of Penal code 46.15 (b) (6)?

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