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Kalrog wrote:

rickb308 wrote:Remington Golden Saber. (Not really, but it is what DPS carries)

Why do you say that Golden Saber is not really self defense ammo?

Technically, any ammo you use to save your life is self defense ammo.
Be it ball, cast, hollowpoint, soft point, etc.

PMC Frangibles, Hydra-Shocks, Corbons, & Glaser Safety Slugs were developed specifically for self defense. Low penetration, maximum expansion.

Goden Sabers are just a brand name (Remington) for hollow points.
I guess you could say ANY hollowpoint is self defense ammo. Even the reloaded hollowpoints you get at the gunshows.

They are not "frangibles", don't have a center post specifically for controlled expansion, little bb's in a hollowpoint and capped, pre-fragmented. 95% copper, (Taurus's new line), etc.

gigag04 wrote:Thanks alot!

So - what are some examples of defensive ammo? nick

.45 ACP 230gr. JHP
Corbon, Federal Hydra-Shok, Glaser Safety Slug,
Remington Golden Saber. (Not really, but it is what DPS carries)

Rule #1 of a gunfight: Be someplace else.
Rule #2 of a gunfight: If you can't be someplace else, bring a gun.
Rule #3 - Use something that starts with a .4 (Like the car commercial, Wider IS better)
Rule #4 - Use the pistol long enough to get you to your long gun or the next county, whichever comes first.