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by Seabear
Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:22 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Walgreens Pharmacist Gets Fired for Defending...
Replies: 62
Views: 8333

Re: Walgreens Pharmacist Gets Fired for Defending...

This was taken from another site here in Texas, written by a former Walgreens employee...

Well, as an employee for the good old W for 9 years (98-2007), I guess I should chime in....

Upon employment, Walgreens prints their robbery procedure right there in black and white in the handbook and on their computer training programs. Whether one thinks someone's actions are legitimate and deserving of merit doesnt matter.... he directly broke a written rule by the company who signs his paycheck. It would be no different than him stealing, showing up drunk, or sharing patient information. The rules are clear, and he clearly broke them...

I was written up once for chasing a lady who stole an armload of Sudafed (this was before they started keeping it behind the counter). I chased her right out the door... even caught her by the back of the collar.... Didnt matter, I was in direct violation of store policy. I knew it and was written up.

5 years later, I had a very similar situation, but I was already standing at the front door coming back into the store just days after the Katrina evacuation (our stores were riddled with thieves and what not, it was insane)... Anyway, guy came walking out holding the bottoms of the legs of his shorts closed with each hand... he had 4-5 of those giant 100 packs of burnable CDs that everybody used to buy. He was coming out while I was walking in and it was obvious that he was shoplifting, so I held him up at the door and we got into a little skirmish and his buddies pulled up in a truck and I ALMOST got myself in a bad situation. Luckily, there was another guy outside and he ran up and the guys jumped back in the truck and the theif ran off on foot. I got the 200 bucks in CDs back ANNNND got handed a slip for a 3 day, unpaid vacation. This instance was a little faster paced and didnt give me alot of time to react, but no doubt, I broke the rules again.

You all have been in a crowded Walgreens at 530 PM and seen the lines and lines of folks at all 3 windows... Can you imagine the problems with an RPh firing off rounds in a scene like that?

I couldnt tell you how many times I have had folks jump over the counter... You just stand out of the way and let them get after it. Of all the times, I didnt have not one person threaten anybody or try to have a physical altercation... its a jump and grab type thing.... Stay out of their way and let the cameras do the work.

Alot of times, you have no CLUE what these people are on or after. I could tell stories for days of the stuff I have seen and been through back there. I have been yelled at, cussed at, spit in my face on numerous occasions, had a knife pulled out, had a gun pulled out, been grabbed by the shirt, had my truck bashed up, been waited on by a family of lunatic after closing, had drinks thrown on me... I could go on and on.... there are some REALLY strange folks that frequent pharmacies, and if you stand between them and their narcotics, there is going to be trouble. On top of that, its hectic back there, everybody is cranky and sick and you are on a time clock to get things done, usually understaffed. Now you know why the employees arent so pleasant sometimes.... its a rough working atmosphere. But, at least its air conditioned!

I know alot of folks would commend a RPh for grabbing some rude jerkwad by the shirt and beating the **** out of him for being an ***, but guess what, thats against the rules too....

Walgreens followed their procedure, the RPh did not, and I dont even see why the courts are allowing this lawsuit to continue...


I carry a 40 and one reason is because of the insane folks that I have witnessed through all my days previously employed at Walgreens. Alot of folks dont realize what is running around on our streets until you see the number of pillheads coming in and out of one of their stores in one day. Its flat out scary AND even more scary that those folks drive vehicles up there!
by Seabear
Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:06 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Walgreens Pharmacist Gets Fired for Defending...
Replies: 62
Views: 8333

Re: Walgreens Pharmacist Gets Fired for Defending...

apostate wrote:
bluejay71 wrote:I'd also be interested in hearing an anwer to the previous poster's question. Is breaking company policy akin to breaking federal/state law? Could they revoke his CHL?
If it happened in Texas, I don't know what grounds there would be for suspending (revoking) his CHL unless he was charged with (convicted of) a disqualifying offense. See §411.186 & §411.187, Government Code.

However, he's in Michigan so all bets are off.

I agree, not here in Texas, but should we allow the employer to decide his unemployment status based on HR violations? Hmmmmm :headscratch
by Seabear
Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:23 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Walgreens Pharmacist Gets Fired for Defending...
Replies: 62
Views: 8333

Re: Walgreens Pharmacist Gets Fired for Defending...

OK I'll bite.

Before anyone thinks I agree with Walgreens let me start by saying NO, I think they could have handled this better,

Now let me play Devil's advocate. I know this is in Michigan, but let's play what if and put the guy in Texas. In one of the longest threads I've seen in a while viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48272" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; the majority was all for having the guy in that thread fired because he violated company policy, and his CHL to be yanked for violation of the law. So is this case different just because the violation of company rules was in self defense?

GC §411.203. RIGHTS OF EMPLOYERS. This subchapter does not
prevent or otherwise limit the right of a public or private employer to
prohibit persons who are licensed under this subchapter from carrying
a concealed handgun on the premises of the business.

I am sure some will attack, trust me, there is no need to. I completely agree that Walgreens is handling this wrong, and I applaud the pharmacist for taking care of himself and his fellow employees, but if we are going to go by the book in one scene why not the next?

We can't choose which rules to follow and which to break ....or can we?

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