Ignoring your attempt at belittling fellow members for now, I also happen to think your way off base, at least for me personally.twomillenium wrote:The mentality that "you have nothing to worry about if you are doing nothing illegal" comes from the mindset of sheeple.
My mindset of I have nothing to worry becuase I am not doing nothing illegal is what puts me at ease when I'm stopped, and I assure you, I'm anything but your insult of "sheeple".
Playing indignant guy during a stop is adolecent at best. They can ask the passange for ID, the passanger can say no thank you and that is all it needs to be...Or you can go in to I know my rights guy and see where that gets you.
They can ask the driver to search, every cop I know tells me, they ask even when they already have PC because it looks better if the case goes to a DA.
So yes they all seem to ask, the driver is free to say no, if they already had PC as Im told they often do, the car is getting searched anyway. If they do not have PC, again from what I have seen personally and what Im told by cops, thats the end of it unless they really do think there is cause and they just need to continue the contact to establish it better before forcing the search.
None of that is being a sheeple nor am I saying give away rights....But a polite no thank you works, so getting all up in arms about how you say no is just petty.