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by E.Marquez
Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:13 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Open carry by two women at Walmart
Replies: 38
Views: 3376

Re: Open carry by two women at Walmart

fickman wrote: I just wish the officers had taken the extra step of affirming to the complainants that no laws had been broken and that open carrying is a firearm in Missouri is business as usual.
Was that in question?

I would think not.. No citations issued, no arrest made... That clearly indicates to most any reasonable person that " no laws had been broken"

Had any of those LEO's or the Chief felt a law had been broken..... Im betting that also would have been made clear.Image
by E.Marquez
Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:12 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Open carry by two women at Walmart
Replies: 38
Views: 3376

Re: Open carry by two women at Walmart

texanjoker wrote:Heck they didn't even disarm the people so no story.
I did notice that as well..which tells me he did not really feel all that threatened, and likely knew it was a baited ambush at THAT point….in the contact.

I think the first responding LEO did ok..I understand command presence, taking charge, being directive...ect. And I was not there so have no real understanding of the situation other then what we see on the video.....That said, once he knew what it was, knew that he was being baited... It would have been GREAT.. if he could have turned the tables on the activists like the Chief did... Stay in control, in charge of the situation.. but switch on the Parent talking to a child persona like the chief did..
by E.Marquez
Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:50 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Open carry by two women at Walmart
Replies: 38
Views: 3376

Re: Open carry by two women at Walmart

Keith B wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
philip964 wrote:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09 ... he-police/

More testing of Constitutional rights or seeing if you can get an interesting video at the expense of the police.

My assumption is that producing an ID is not required, but would you need to identify yourself if asked.
The Sherif is Pro 2nA, but had to explain whey his guys were called on the scene.
Was the police chief of Marshfield. Marshfield is a small town northeast of Springfield, MO on I-44. While Missouri is open carry as a state, individual municipalities can set ordinances prohibiting it. Marshfield doesn't have one, but several do. But, as you can see, open carry on private property can definitely be restricted and Walmart wanted them to leave. Many stores will not confront someone if they want you to not open carry and will let the LEO's deal with it. They were not arrested, but they were checked out and asked to not go back in carrying openly.

And, while Missouri has always been a legal open carry state, you can see why it is rarely practiced.
The part I found interesting and need to research is when the Chief stated if a third part was alarmed, (starting at vid tape second :32 or so) it was considered a "peace disturbance".

while that is the reality in much of Texas, we know that the law states otherwise here (displayed with intent calculated to cause alarm).. What does MO law state?
Does MO law say if ANYONE is alarmed,,, the armed person is now in violation ??

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