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sjfcontrol wrote:

bronco78 wrote:

Topdog77c wrote: Put a little orange dot on my bag. I guess to let some know it's been checked or has a firearm inside. Will update when we get to Nashville.

By doing so they violated thier own policy.

It's to tell the baggage handler on the tarmac which bag to rifle through for "the good stuff".

Oh now I did not say it did not have advantages, just that it violated the policy as stated to me by TSA..

Topdog77c wrote: Put a little orange dot on my bag. I guess to let some know it's been checked or has a firearm inside. Will update when we get to Nashville.

By doing so they violated thier own policy.

RoyGBiv wrote:

bronco78 wrote: TSA Response:
" The declaration tag is required to be placed inside the checked baggage containing the firearm, not in the outside bag, the firearm container may be separated from the other bag, and the declaration tag must stay with the firearm"

Interesting... So, even though I'm not asked to open the locked case, I should just go ahead and do it and stuff the card inside?
I'll need to ponder that for a bit...

THANKS.! for the Horses-Mouth" info.

ETA: Post 1911 for me....

Well me? Unless the ticket or TSA agent insisted putting the tag on the OUTSIDE and visible to all.. I don’t care what they want to do with it, inside the luggage, or in the gun case... It's not worth a discussion, and I would not open the case at all unless directed to.

I’ve had it go both ways in the last 6 months, but none wanted to tag the outside of the luggage, so I let it go.
Besides, who says the person answering my emails at TSA is the final adjudication authority? For all I know, it was someone’s son or daughter typing that on “Take your Kid to Work day”

brentski wrote:The card goes inside the case.

\ Previously posted
The below is based on the response to me from TSA Legal, when asked about the tag..

Who decides what the procedure is?
TSA stated specifically
" the airline will place a declaration tag inside the checked baggage containing the firearm. This notice alerts Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) to the presence of the firearm if they have to open the bag to inspect it. "

That is the written guidance, and is interpreted one of two ways, but complying with the guidance.

If a gun is shipped in a single container, locked with user lock, the declaration will be inside that container and not accessible by TSA.

If the double container is used, either the tag is in the inner case or the outer one, both ways it is adhering to the written guidance "the airline will place a declaration tag inside the checked baggage containing the firearm"

I understand how you have interpreted the guidance, but TSA reps are seeing it other ways sometimes.. Intentions aside, both follow the rules.

I asked a follow on question after receiving the response above.

"TSA Contact Center; Thank you for the prompt response to my questions..
If you could clarify one thing.
The declaration tag, when I travel I place my firearm in a locked box, which is placed in my locked luggage (another secure pelican case). Where should the declaration tag be placed? "

TSA Response:
" The declaration tag is required to be placed inside the checked baggage containing the firearm, not in the outside bag, the firearm container may be separated from the other bag, and the declaration tag must stay with the firearm"

Laneman wrote:The ammo can go in your same suitcase as the locked gun case, just not inside the actual gun case..

No sir, not correct.

There is NO RULE or prohibition from storing the ammo in the same container as the weapon. This has been confirmed by TSA Legal department (and posted here several times), and in actual use many times ov
er. As well as specifically stated as such on TSA's web site, and mentioned in most airlines direction for shipping a weapon.
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... _1666.shtm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

• Travelers must securely pack any ammunition in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
  Firearm magazines and ammunition clips must be securely boxed or included within a hard-sided case containing an unloaded firearm.
  Small arms ammunition, including ammunition not exceeding .75 caliber for a rifle or pistol and shotgun shells of any gauge, may be carried in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as it follows the packing guidelines described above

While I don’t doubt some airline ticket agent erroneously may have stated this nonsense about ammo being required to be separate from the gun, and or a TSA agent did as well.. the regulation and rules clearly state ammo in the gun case is fine, so long as it is pack IAW the published rules.

And as the OP asked about SW Airlines.. This is what THEY say about ammo being packed..

Ammunition
Small arms ammunition for personal use (provided it is properly packed) is permissible in checked baggage only.
The ammunition may be placed in the same container as the firearm and must be securely packed in cardboard (fiber), wood, or metal boxes, or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
When checking ammunition, Customers are limited to 11 pounds gross weight (ammunition plus container) per person.
Magazines or clips containing ammunition must be securely packaged (placed in another small box or in a secure cutout in the carrying case, in order to protect the primer of the ammunition).
Make sure guns are unloaded and definitely never transport a gun in your carryon baggage!
Gunpowder (black powder) and primers or percussion caps are not allowed in checked or carryon baggage.
Loose ammunition or loose loaded magazines and/or clips are not allowed.