Lets start again with some ground facts.
I am not a failure theories expert, and have very little experience in that area
I stated that I was a Mechanical Engineering student, in an attempt to give an accurate picture of my knowledge, not to put myself on a pedestal.
Any gun can go Ka Boom when the pressure becomes to great and ruptures the case.
All different types have gone Ka Boom in the past.
I cannot find any statistics on Ka Boom numbers (if they existed there probably wouldn't be much of a discussion)
There seem to be more reports of glocks going Ka boom than other manufacturers
It is very unlikely that your Glock will go Ka Boom.
The chamber of Glocks is less supported than many other popular models.
All other things being equal, the case in a less supported chamber will rupture at a lower pressure than a more supported chamber.
Therefore, I feel safe in saying, metallurgy aside, a case is more likely to rupture in the chamber of a glock than it is in the chamber of a Sig, H&K, Beretta ect.
I would be happy to continue this conversation if anyone has any new information or insight, but sighting glock's track record in other areas, and stating that other firearms fail, doesn't add anything.
and to austinrealtor, a appologise for putting words in your mouth, it seemed to me that you were saying there wasn't a glock Ka Boom problem.
In short, less supported chambers will lead to Ka Booms at lower pressures, glock decided to use a less supported chamber to aid in feeding reliability. Engineering is a trade off, and my opinion is that the trade off has resulted in more Ka Booms than glock intended. The fact is that their choice lowers the factor of safety, my opinion is that the trade off they made is a design flaw.
If you have a Glock in any caliber I would suggest shooting it as often as possible, and if you shoot any type of gun I would suggest not shooting unsafe reloads.
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- Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:14 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: What is the best?
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- Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:07 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: What is the best?
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Re: What is the best?
I'm not saying glocks are unreliable, and I am not a SIG fanboy, I don't like to shoot Glocks, but I understand that they are extremely reliable, and very well designed, but the undisputed fact remains that Glocks have a lower factor of safety than do sigs, especially in .40 caliber. As a Mechanical Engineering student, I see this as a design flaw (in a glock, impossible I know). Just because most car's in Toyota's affected lines won't fail doesn't mean there wasn't a design flaw. Also bringing in other aspects of Glock's admittedly stellar record does not add anything to your apparent assertion that a problem with .40 Glocks going KaBoom does not exist.
Also I would like to note that after further study I found that some H&K variants do have fully supported chambers and have experienced similar problems.
For your reading pleasure. http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html
Also I would like to note that after further study I found that some H&K variants do have fully supported chambers and have experienced similar problems.
For your reading pleasure. http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html
- Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:23 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: What is the best?
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Re: What is the best?
Let me attempt to clarify.
There have been an unusual number of Glocks chambered in .40 S&W that have had catastrophic failures likely due to their chamber being less than fully supported combined with what are most likely hot loads in the already high pressure .40 S&W round.
All Taurus' may not be junk, but there are a lot more junk Taurus' than there are junk SIG's, Glocks, Springfield's, ect. (and no its not because they produce more guns). Same goes for Glocks chambered in .40, they are not designed to handle higher pressure rounds as well as SIGs or H&K's are, your Glock in .40 may never fail, but the fact remains that it is a problem, and one that should be taken into consideration.
There have been an unusual number of Glocks chambered in .40 S&W that have had catastrophic failures likely due to their chamber being less than fully supported combined with what are most likely hot loads in the already high pressure .40 S&W round.
All Taurus' may not be junk, but there are a lot more junk Taurus' than there are junk SIG's, Glocks, Springfield's, ect. (and no its not because they produce more guns). Same goes for Glocks chambered in .40, they are not designed to handle higher pressure rounds as well as SIGs or H&K's are, your Glock in .40 may never fail, but the fact remains that it is a problem, and one that should be taken into consideration.
- Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:02 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: What is the best?
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Re: What is the best?
I love my SIG P229 SCT in .40
Glock .40's have be know to blow up
I'd be willing to bet a STI double stack 2011 in ,.40 is the best shooting .40 out there (it's the best shooting .40 I've ever shot)
Glock .40's have be know to blow up
I'd be willing to bet a STI double stack 2011 in ,.40 is the best shooting .40 out there (it's the best shooting .40 I've ever shot)