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Suri wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:47 pm

rotor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:00 pm

Suri wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:44 pm

tbrown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:33 pm The past month shows there are way too many people on the Federal payroll.

We're talking about the FBI being impaired. Let's do an audit instead of just hampering it to see what might happen.
See https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/new-yo ... ed-032718

I was in the military during one of these shutdowns and didn't get paid, all about abortion at that time. You suck up and keep working. I don't feel very sorry about any federal employee not getting paid until this is over. They WILL get paid. Good time for them to sit down, write a letter to their congresspeople and tell them to work with Trump. Or they can wait forever to get paid. I personally don't care. Especially for people in the IRS. Have you ever dealt with an IRS employee?

Thanks for you service. I did some service too and got along ok without money sometimes (as a teenager I was not very frugal) but food and lodging were not a problem. So you can't compare your situation with all of the 800,000 that are going unpaid. We should all care; there might be some nice governmental employees...

anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:52 am

Liberty wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:23 am Know your enemy. Know their talkng points.
We will never win if we just ignore them and don't learn their weaknesses.

This is wise and true. If you really think about it, no matter where you are, no matter what you are doing, you are bombarded with "news" or opinions. It is not difficult to know what the enemy's talking points are.

Suri wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:10 pm

G26ster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:16 pm

Suri wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:38 pm By the way, we watch CNN and MSNBC as well as Fox News - different slants on the news are interesting. Try it.

That's what's wrong with "news" today. The SLANT! There are very few straight news programs anymore. All networks are biased one way or the other, mainly and almost exclusively left. I don't want to hear the opinions. I don't need my news interpreted. I'm not a dummy. There's nothing I dislike more than a thirty-something political science major, with little to no real life experience render their "expert" opinion. Journalism in this country is on deaths door. Reporting just the facts no longer exists.

Sorry to belabor this but I think our reference points are different. When I say "news" I'm not referring to the commentators that promote their biased agendas - and we have a lot of those. But I do watch even the various pundits occasionally just to get a handle on what the extremes are saying - if they can speak intelligently and give meaningful arguments with legitimate data sources, I'm curious. And I even find humor in some of those. By the way I find BBC World News interesting sometimes and enjoy the PMQ Sessions. Maybe as an old retiree I have too much time on my hands and watch tv too much.

Stay cool... be curious.

Suri wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:38 pm By the way, we watch CNN and MSNBC as well as Fox News - different slants on the news are interesting. Try it.

Pawpaw wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:47 pm

anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:05 pm I watched SNL from the very beginning. After Belushi died, and all of the originals left SNL has not been the same. It originally was all about the comedy, now it is all about progressive leftist communist garbage. They have no humor that could ever interest me.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Suri wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:46 pm SNL has been around for more than 4 decades, is widely considered an American late-night institution, and continues to earn critical praise.

G.A. Heath wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:25 pm Here's my take on this...
Essential: Needed to protect life, liberty, and property
Non-essential: Needed to operate government functions not related to the protection of Life, liberty, and property)
Unneeded: People whose jobs do not have a significant work load when they get back.

An example of an essential job would be Air traffic controllers, an example of an non-essential job would be the FAA administrators responsible for licensing, while an example of an unneeded job would be the congressional barber shop staff.

Consider that pilots who need to renew their certifications can test during the 'shutdown' because the testing centers are private parties but pilots will not receive a new or renewed certificate until after everyone goes back to work and gets caught up to where that pilot is in the system. New Amateur radio licensees will not get their call signs until after the shutdown ends. The thing that annoys me about the shutdown is that once people come back and get their checks issued to them for the 'time off' during the shutdown we will have to pay them overtime to get caught back up.

WhoWouldGuess wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:32 pm Anygunanywhere, the House approved a bill, it went to the Senate, who approved it and sent it to the President, who refused to sign it. Whose fault is this?