Thanks for the tongue in cheek response. And no, I have no desire to be included in that subset, so just include me in the "offended" group please. Oh, and yeah, you need to do better than just finding my position on respecting our flag "somewhat humorous." How a bout a good belly laugh?Pacifist wrote: My comment was directed at the thread as a whole, but more so at particularly humorous posts that advocated (even threatened!) violence as an appropriate response to a Constitutionally protected and defended act. If you wish to include yourself in that subset, feel free to do so---your choice.
As to HGTV's tasteless, inappropriate, and wholly improper use of the U.S. flag, I can almost assure you that the New York ultra-liberals at Scripps who were responsible for both assembling and approving the display are quite busily and incredulously asking themselves exactly what it was that they did that was so wrong and assuring themselves that they won't ever make that same mistake again as next Flag Day, there will be no effort whatsoever made to honor the holiday, so in their minds, the "problem" is solved. They have no concept of honor, duty, morals, or patriotism. That's simply the way NY (and most other) liberals think.
In any event, on whichever side you may find yourself in any disagreement, there is, and I believe fortunately for us all, no Constitutional safeguard nor protection against being insulted or offended.
Oh, and yeah, I did find your apparent eagerness to be included in the "group-of-the-offended" somewhat humorous, but it didn't offend me in the least.
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- Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:35 pm
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- Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:26 pm
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You miss my point if your post is directed at me. I'm not defending violence against those who agree that desecration of the flag is a right, in fact I call the posts about retribution or putting those people in the same category as rapists "red herrings" that are distracting to the issue. I am calling ss1088's attention to that fact that there are millions of people that are "rightfully" offended by desecration, but will defend your right to do it, and he is ignoring that issue because "he" doesn't see the "big deal." No different than being offended by hate speech or displays, and at the same time defending one's right to do so. The point is the failure to recognize the insult millions feel, and saying "no big deal." I don't believe anyone said that HGTV had "no right" to post the article, only that it was very poor taste and disrespectful to do so. Just because disrespect is a right, most folks don't disrespect others because it's their right to do so. That's bad form. I hope you find this post equally "funny."Pacifist wrote:I can't be the only one who sees more than a little irony in the fact that there are people here actually threatening violent intervention against those who are exercising their First Amendment rights (and, like it or not, that's what "desecration" of the flag is), while at the same time using as partial or full justification for that violence the fact that "I spent 'x' number of years defending those rights," and/or "there were many who died" in defense of those same rights. Sometimes these threads are just too darn funny.
- Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:35 pm
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Re: HGTV: Use an American flag as a tablecloth!
Let's cut the red herrings about rape, and flag burning, etc. and stick to your original comment. You said, "I don't see how a flag being used as a decoration is relevant."ss1088 wrote:I don't understand why this is not acceptable. Can you elaborate. I actually had a hard time following your whole post, but this is what stuck out to me the most.psijac wrote: But claiming ignorance to why someone would be offended is not fine.
That is the issue. You don't see! You don't see what the flag means to millions of Americans, some who fought for our rights, and the families of those that died for our rights. You are blind as to why we salute the flag, or pledge allegiance to the flag, or hold the Star Spangled Banner as our national Anthem in reverence. That's the whole point - you don't see! It appears that you simply consider the flag just another corporate logo, and perfectly fine to be stained and marred by scraps food. Millions, upon millions of Americans do not agree with you, regardless of your right to be blind.