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Purplehood wrote:Sewere_Ice,

I don't understand your statement, "The officer I dealt with was very professional, however demeaning towards me,". Please clarify.

He was professional in how he approached the situation, however he was demeaning towards me when he insulted my knowledge of CHL laws, when in fact he was the one who didn't know them very well.

A Captain called me today from UNT PD, a few times to figure it all out. The Captain is a CHL instructor! So, yes the officer was in the wrong. It took them a while to figure out which officer it was because every traffic stop is suppose to be recorded on dash cam, mine was not. They're now trying to figure out why it was off in the first place.

I'm going to write a letter/contact the head of department so NEXT TIME I have my gun in my car, I'm not targeted. The officer took note of my car, etc. I'm sure they will find some bull excuse to pull me over again. Just having the Texas CHL handbook in my car, clearly stating what the law is, does not necessarily protect me from wasting a day in jail, and having an arrest on my record.

Every officer will run into a CHL some point in the career, you'd figure a CAMPUS POLICE OFFICER would know how that applies to his special jurisdiction. Does this guy know something I don't?

I'm going to write a letter, I'll post it on here. The officer I dealt with was very professional, however demeaning towards me, during the incident. He should have better knowledge and I'd ask that the dept. chief make sure his officers know enough about CHL in order to treat those who obey the laws as law-abiding citizens, and not criminals. I could very easily have gone to jail today due to his ignorance, then missed a test. Getting arrested for ANY REASON (innocent, or not having committed any crime) is not an excuse for missing a test for an department at UNT, so I'd have to take a zero for a test grade! I'll make sure to mention this as well, and the fact that I plan on going into law enforcement myself, so I do understand that every officer cannot know every law, but knowing CHL as it pertains to his jurisdiction is important.

austinrealtor wrote:With a CHL you should be fine legally with gun in your car (IANAL). But school likely prohibits students/staff to do this via expulsions, job termination etc.

However if you DON'T have a Texas CHL then you are violating Federal gun free school zone laws. Also I think there are some obscure Texas Education Code laws regarding guns on campus for non-CHLs but don't have it in front of me so don't want to misquote anything.

Last I checked (IANAL) the school may only prohibit employees from having a firearm in the car, I could have sworn there was some legislation to this extent, that or it was a ruling. I hope someone more knowledgeable comes by soon. I want to make sure I am correct before I go to a higher authority, or carry on campus again.

I forgot to mention, another cruiser pulled up while he was running everything, 2 officers exited. I was thinking for a second, "Am I getting arrested or something?" That's usually what it means when another cruiser pulls up, most departments require 2 officers for an arrest to be made.

The officer who was obviously much older heard this conversation at the end... So it makes me wonder if it's more than just him that's ignorant, unless it's me that is.

Now, I may be in the wrong here, but even if you don't have a CHL in Texas, can't you have your handgun in your car (glove box) per state law?
I know there was a case in Amarillo (I think) where a High school student had a handgun in his car a few years ago, he was expelled but his attorney got it thrown out as no law was broken!

I'm going to wait till after I'm off campus to do all this, officer took a picture and everything on his PDA before he let me go, have a feeling I'll be randomly stopped at some point to ensure I'm no longer carrying, and I know he's gonna have it out for me after I talk to his boss.

Crazy part is, the only reason why I am going back to school is to be an LEO!

EDIT:
Just read the student code of conduct:
http://www.unt.edu/csrr/pdf/conduct/code_of_conduct.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
No mention of firearms what-so-ever! I didn't even violate University Policy! Unless it's listed somewhere else.

Got pulled over by an officer- going 30 in a 20 on campus.
Here's the short version. For the first time during a traffic stop, the officer has me exit the car to get my firearm.
After waiting around for him to run my license and stuff, he comes back. He ask how well I know the concealed handgun license laws, I inform him I know them very well. He says that I CANNOT have my firearm in my car on campus, or anywhere on any university property in the state of Texas..
He says that he's giving me a break, because he can take me to jail. I really bit my tongue here, yes, you can take me to jail, regardless of what the law actually says. I felt like directly quoting 46.03 and 46.035, but that would ensure I would go to jail, be there all day for a judge to hear and rule what the law ACTUALLY IS, and miss a test.

Last I checked, we can't carry on the PREMISES!!! Premises is a building or portion of building, and yes I can have my gun in my car. Guy even made me put it in my trunk Unloaded. I decided just to double check here and make sure theres not some law I'm ignorant of before I call into his department and give his Sargent a piece of my mind.

At least I didn't get the speeding ticket.