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Jason, congrats to you & Kimberly!

Also, you're reasoning is why I have decided not to pull over for the flashing lights on deserted roads. (I've never been pulled over on a deserted road, but have made my decision.)

Like you & Kimberly, I realize this may get me a ticket, or even a stay in the gray-bar motel, but believe it's the wisest choice.

Most officers I have talked to understand this reasoning.

We were actually taught in our CHL class that it is a bad idea to intervene unless we know the situation, as intervention is beyond our training.
Ex: One person attacking another in public place, and we don't know the situation prior to our arrival or our notice of the issue. How do we know the "victim" didn't actually start the brawl?
Also, how would any of us know that the scenario we're discussing wasn't a domestic disturbance? If I shoot him, I could very possibly be looking at civil charges from her! And it's highly likely she would collect. How does the law protect me there? Should my family and I go through that?

We were taught that, unless it's YOUR relative/friend and you KNOW the situation, call the police and gather as much info as possible. If they see you on the phone and start messing with you, its a different story.

player_twister wrote:

IMHO, the way to avoid this type of attack is to see it coming and either be somewhere else or summon help.

That still doesn't answer the question. Suppose, you/me with a CHL, are the only "help" that is present.

CHLers do not have the legal right to intervene on a stranger's behalf. We barely have the legal right to intervene on our own relatives' behalves.


Also, this particular LEO is why I refuse to pull over in a deserted area. I realize most of these guys are honorable, but the mean ones still aren't tagged.

Also, if a drunk guy comes at me swinging and threatening, I would have to consider that deadly force, as angry drunks just don't respond well to deescalation measures.