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by OldCannon
Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:46 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Trade gun across state lines
Replies: 51
Views: 6482

Re: Trade gun across state lines

C-dub wrote:
airbornecpa wrote:
Oh there is another bone here to chew on. The "out of state person" is in the Military. While I can not cite law, if he is stationed in Texas, not TDY, then for purposes of purchasing a firearm of any type, he is considered to be a Texas Resident as well of a resident of his home of record state.

Additionally, he can get a Texas Resident CHL without having to pay the state any money.
:headscratch Without a Texas DL how would he do that?
There are specific rules about how you can do this. If you go on the ATF site, there's a video you can watch that PAINFULLY explains it (just like all their other videos).

Your local FFL should know all the ins and outs. Seriously, I've had to sit and have an ATF agent lecture me for HOURS on all this stuff so that you don't have to figure it out by yourself :lol:
by OldCannon
Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:32 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Trade gun across state lines
Replies: 51
Views: 6482

Re: Trade gun across state lines

1wise1 wrote:And then there is the very real dilemma of a new..or older handgun. In the case of Glock, the instructions are to "send it to Glock in Georgia and they will repair what broke". How do you send it...
They must have at least one FFL on staff who can receive it, if you can figure out how to ship it.
How do they send it back to the owner? Never had to send one in so haven't experienced the joy of getting one back.
You can send firearms back to the manufacturer for repair. You cannot use USPS to send them a handgun though. You must use UPS or FedEx (or other "common carrier")
by OldCannon
Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:30 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Trade gun across state lines
Replies: 51
Views: 6482

Re: Trade gun across state lines

nightmare69 wrote:I heard that out of state resident cannot buy a handgun in Louisiana. Is this true? This meaning I cannot buy and handgun from bass pro shop?
Correct. You can only buy handguns inside your state of residence.
by OldCannon
Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:42 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Trade gun across state lines
Replies: 51
Views: 6482

Re: Trade gun across state lines

G26ster wrote: OldCannon, no disrespect intended. I am aware of the postal regs, but did not see USPS mentioned in your post, or if you had said "mail" instead of "ship" I would not have posted. :tiphat:
I didn't take it that way, it's all good :mrgreen: The biggest concern I have is somebody misunderstanding this thread and getting themselves in VERY hot water.
by OldCannon
Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:12 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Trade gun across state lines
Replies: 51
Views: 6482

Re: Trade gun across state lines

G26ster wrote: According to the quote from the ATF Guide for "non-licensees" I posted, it indicates no difference, and specifically says a common carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
Far be it from me, a licensed Class III FFL, to know squat about ATF regs. :lol:

All sarcasm aside, you neglected to go to the very next paragraph in the GunBroker FAQ (listed here: http://www.gunbroker.com/Support/Suppor ... faqid=1118" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;), so here it is:
(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.
by OldCannon
Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Trade gun across state lines
Replies: 51
Views: 6482

Re: Trade gun across state lines

1wise1 wrote:Thanks for your opinions everybody... that's why I asked in the first place. Lawyer tells me if I didn't know the guy with the gun was from another state and he represents himself as a Texas resident (as in temporarily assigned here by the military) we can trade and walk away it's not my business what he does next or his business what I do next.
The ATF could care less what your lawyer says and the arrest and trial alone will crush you financially even if innocent, that's how the federal government works. In fact, you WILL be found guilty of something, and you WILL lose your right to ever own a weapon again. Go read "Three Felonies A Day." That is one scary book! (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00505UZ4G/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
The FFL question was just in there to distract you. A Texas FFL can transfer his gun to me, but has to send my gun to another FFL in the new owner's state. It appears to be optional for FFL's as to whether they will receive a gun from an individual or require that it be shipped to them by another FFL (as in gun dealer) Some will, some will not.
Let's clarify "a gun," please. A non-licensee CANNOT ship a HANDGUN across state lines to an FFL - it is a felony. An FFL that accepts such a shipment can be charged with a felony as well. Some FFLs refuse to accept out-of-state shipments of long guns (rifles/shotguns) from private individuals. It's overly-paranoid, but it's not my job to tell them how to run their business (and you couldn't pay me enough for such a job). It is perfectly legal for a non-licensee to ship a gun to an FFL out of state (or to themselves to an address in another state).
by OldCannon
Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:57 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Trade gun across state lines
Replies: 51
Views: 6482

Re: Trade gun across state lines

Violation of federal law. Easy way to go to jail.

As Wes said, just do the transfer FFL to FFL.

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