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- Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:16 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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You all assume having good evidence would have kept Jackson, Sharpton, NBC, and MSNBC from stirring up the pot. The facts wouldn't change anything. It may help Zimmerman in trial, but I am certain we would still be seeing all the anger we are seeing today regardless.
- Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:53 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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I assume it because I don't want to believe the alternative. If a prosecutor indicts at this level, with no real intent or ability to prosecute, that's a criminal act IMO. Not that the government is beyond being criminal, but I just have a hard time believing it... denial I guess.i8godzilla wrote:So, you assume they want a conviction. I think they needed an indictment in order to ease tensions that were reaching a boiling point. Based on the one page thin indictment I am not sure anyone was preparing for a conviction.Scott in Houston wrote:I would think the Prosecutor would want to act now while heads aren't cool. She indicted him with 2nd Degree Murder. To get a conviction on that, she'll need a jury that's completely emotional and not logical at all.tommyg wrote:I think the Zimmerman trial will be put off for as long as possible
Because both the defense and prosecution want to
give it time for cooler heads to prevail. Maybe a year from now or longer
- Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:51 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Another Concern About the Zimmerman/Martin shooting...
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I would think the Prosecutor would want to act now while heads aren't cool. She indicted him with 2nd Degree Murder. To get a conviction on that, she'll need a jury that's completely emotional and not logical at all.tommyg wrote:I think the Zimmerman trial will be put off for as long as possible
Because both the defense and prosecution want to
give it time for cooler heads to prevail. Maybe a year from now or longer
- Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:40 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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Great stuff TAM. Thanks for the input!!
- Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:37 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Another Concern About the Zimmerman/Martin shooting...
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The Annoyed Man wrote:The height of the L.A. rioting was a couple of days. The entire ordeal was longer than that. I was there.Scott in Houston wrote:Well, the rioting in LA was a couple of days. Who knows what we could face here, but I would imagine that being prepared for at least a week or so would be wise.
I plan to send my wife and family to the country while I stay at home. I will have enough food/water for a week at minimum. (I already have much more, but for advise-sake)
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a loss of power or services if things get really out of control.
In addition to the food/water, the other items to ensure you have (IMO):
1) Fire extinguishers <- I am going to buy commercial grade... good to have regardless!
2) Self and home defense items
3) First aid items
4) Lighting & batteries, and/or power generator if you have it
I agree... That's why being prepared for a while is the smart thing to do. That's my plan anyway.
This could potentially be a national crisis. I think people are so angry and divided, and this issue is the exact kind of issue that would set the tinder box on fire. Leftist, socialist policies have created such angst among those who see themselves as "have-nots" that when given a decent excuse, in their mind, to get revenge or 'take what is theirs' (in their mind), they'll do it. I'm convinced of that.
Does anyone know or have any educated guesses what the timeline may look like for this trial?
- Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:10 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Another Concern About the Zimmerman/Martin shooting...
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Well, the rioting in LA was a couple of days. Who knows what we could face here, but I would imagine that being prepared for at least a week or so would be wise.
I plan to send my wife and family to the country while I stay at home. I will have enough food/water for a week at minimum. (I already have much more, but for advise-sake)
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a loss of power or services if things get really out of control.
In addition to the food/water, the other items to ensure you have (IMO):
1) Fire extinguishers <- I am going to buy commercial grade... good to have regardless!
2) Self and home defense items
3) First aid items
4) Lighting & batteries, and/or power generator if you have it
I plan to send my wife and family to the country while I stay at home. I will have enough food/water for a week at minimum. (I already have much more, but for advise-sake)
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a loss of power or services if things get really out of control.
In addition to the food/water, the other items to ensure you have (IMO):
1) Fire extinguishers <- I am going to buy commercial grade... good to have regardless!
2) Self and home defense items
3) First aid items
4) Lighting & batteries, and/or power generator if you have it
- Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:23 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Another Concern About the Zimmerman/Martin shooting...
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Well, here's more to support my concern.
http://twitchy.com/2012/04/23/twitter-l ... -kill-him/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That sentiment is growing and spreading via twitter and Facebook rapidly.
As you said Jim, I too have some friends who will not even consider new evidence, and I consider them level-headed people (or I used to anyway).
As for riots... be prepared...
http://twitchy.com/2012/04/12/twitter-l ... acquitted/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he'll be acquitted. I believe everyone in a large city should be on high alert. I will not have family in town the day of the verdict. I plan to speak to the neighbors about this as well. If there's a true riot, we'll have to work together to protect ourselves.
http://twitchy.com/2012/04/23/twitter-l ... -kill-him/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That sentiment is growing and spreading via twitter and Facebook rapidly.
As you said Jim, I too have some friends who will not even consider new evidence, and I consider them level-headed people (or I used to anyway).
As for riots... be prepared...
http://twitchy.com/2012/04/12/twitter-l ... acquitted/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he'll be acquitted. I believe everyone in a large city should be on high alert. I will not have family in town the day of the verdict. I plan to speak to the neighbors about this as well. If there's a true riot, we'll have to work together to protect ourselves.
- Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:44 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Another Concern About the Zimmerman/Martin shooting...
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Another Concern About the Zimmerman/Martin shooting...
I didn't put this in the large discussion thread on the subject, because it's not about the shooting itself, or the legalities, etc.
I have a concern about the aftermath. (This could almost be a prepping type question)
I believe that Zimmerman will either get off completely, or get off with a lighter conviction than murder or even manslaughter. I could be wrong, but that is my guess at this point.
My concern is the chaos that will ensue if that does happen. We live in a decent neighborhood in the Memorial area of Houston. Not far from us are several blocks of apartments full of re-located (and yes, the government is STILL paying for their rent ) Katrina evacuees, and others whom I believe will not respond well if Zimmerman isn't convicted. These are not happy folks. I've had run-ins at a grocery store I now avoid just because of the anger these people possess. I would bet big money that if he's not convicted, the riots we saw in LA after the King trial will pale in comparison to the riots we'll see nation-wide if Zimmerman is let off. Social media has amped up the anger and the communication between the angry. I wouldn't want to be caught anywhere near LA, Detroit, New York, or parts of Atlanta.
In our area, I could easily see a chaotic situation develop where an attitude of get the 'rich white people,' could develop, and our neighborhood could be targeted fairly easily. I'm already planning on not having family at home when the verdict is read, however, I will be here. I'm not sure how long until this trial begins or more importantly, it ends, but I think we all should be prepared for some civil unrest. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to see the civil unrest even if he's convicted! Any excuse to rob, pillage, and riot seems to work for some people (e.g. NBA championships, etc.).
What do you all think? Are there others who live in a metropolitan area who have similar concerns?
I have a concern about the aftermath. (This could almost be a prepping type question)
I believe that Zimmerman will either get off completely, or get off with a lighter conviction than murder or even manslaughter. I could be wrong, but that is my guess at this point.
My concern is the chaos that will ensue if that does happen. We live in a decent neighborhood in the Memorial area of Houston. Not far from us are several blocks of apartments full of re-located (and yes, the government is STILL paying for their rent ) Katrina evacuees, and others whom I believe will not respond well if Zimmerman isn't convicted. These are not happy folks. I've had run-ins at a grocery store I now avoid just because of the anger these people possess. I would bet big money that if he's not convicted, the riots we saw in LA after the King trial will pale in comparison to the riots we'll see nation-wide if Zimmerman is let off. Social media has amped up the anger and the communication between the angry. I wouldn't want to be caught anywhere near LA, Detroit, New York, or parts of Atlanta.
In our area, I could easily see a chaotic situation develop where an attitude of get the 'rich white people,' could develop, and our neighborhood could be targeted fairly easily. I'm already planning on not having family at home when the verdict is read, however, I will be here. I'm not sure how long until this trial begins or more importantly, it ends, but I think we all should be prepared for some civil unrest. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to see the civil unrest even if he's convicted! Any excuse to rob, pillage, and riot seems to work for some people (e.g. NBA championships, etc.).
What do you all think? Are there others who live in a metropolitan area who have similar concerns?