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- Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:09 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
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Re: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
You guys are validating what I already believe, but those guys with Ayoob (sp?) on a podcast I heard had me questioning myself.
- Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:06 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
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Re: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
So if all this is true about Class 3 stuff, then the 'rumors' of having a lighter trigger getting you in trouble are on the same level?
Having a "-" Glock connector shouldn't be an issue?
Having a "-" Glock connector shouldn't be an issue?
- Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:50 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
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Re: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
I hear ya. I know there's no law, but sadly, law isn't the only factor when things go to trial. Emotion is a HUGE factor and prosecutors will leverage it to the hilt. My concern was the perception that cans have in the average Joe's mind.rm9792 wrote:There is no law against using a suppressor for home defense. There is no law against your CCW having a suppressor. Not practical to carry but it is legal. You can CCW a suppressed F/Auto MP5 if you want in Texas, long as you got the stamps for it.
- Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:49 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
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Re: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
Interesting. I didn't know that it could cause issues. That changes everything IMO. I can deal with hearing loss, yet surviving, vs. protecting my hearing, yet not surviving!Syntax360 wrote:I've got one and used it on my nightstand gun for awhile, but the biggest issue I have with suppressors on pistols for home defense is that they GREATLY increase the likelihood of a malfunction. I've never had a malfunction from the pistol I have setup for my suppressor when it wasn't wearing the can, but there will occasionally be cycling issues when shooting suppressed (my Evo-9 has a booster). It's not a chronic problem, but it has happened enough to make me take the can off for HD duty.
Also, the handgun does become seriously more cumbersome with all that weight up front. It's probably less of an issue when playing high-speed at the range, but waking up groggy in the middle of the night and potentially firing from a weird and less than ideal shooting position - no thanks. If you ever got into a confrontation with someone in your home - if they caught you by surprise or whatever - the can will give them much more leverage on working to disarm you, and any outside force disturbing the can will almost certainly induce a malfunction.
It's cool and everything, but I don't think cans belong on home defense handguns. Short-barrel or bullpup rifles, on the other hand...
I'm still interested in one for my rifles though. And like you said, that's a different story. Does it affect the reliability of an AR cycling?
- Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:48 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
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Re: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
I'm familiar with the "audio exclusion". I've even experienced it. However, it doesn't mean that your ears don't take a beating. It's just that the adrenaline makes is so that you don't hear any ringing, and basically "don't hear" the shots.
Suppressors don't sound at all like the movies, but they do make it completely tolerable to shoot most handguns indoors with almost no affects to your hearing. The sound is comparable to someone clapping their hands. It's wonderful compared to the normal sound.
I'd hate to have to use my .357 SIG or even a 9mm indoors. It would be unbelievably loud and could easily, permanently damage my or my family's hearing.
I would hope that one would "be fine" if using a can for defense, but I'm curious if anyone has any real data or experience to back it up.
Suppressors don't sound at all like the movies, but they do make it completely tolerable to shoot most handguns indoors with almost no affects to your hearing. The sound is comparable to someone clapping their hands. It's wonderful compared to the normal sound.
I'd hate to have to use my .357 SIG or even a 9mm indoors. It would be unbelievably loud and could easily, permanently damage my or my family's hearing.
I would hope that one would "be fine" if using a can for defense, but I'm curious if anyone has any real data or experience to back it up.
- Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:54 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
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Have a suppressor? And use for self/home defense?
Ok. I'm very close to buying a suppressor or multiple suppressors.
My hang up is this:
One of the main reasons that I want one is for self defense in the home and not losing all hearing ability after using a fire arm in my home (God forbid).
My concern is regarding the perception of these tools. Even after going through all the proper channels, (taxes, fees, stamps, trusts, etc). I could see this being used against you if you had to utilize one in defense. It would not surprise me to see a district attorney utilize the negative perception of "silencers" in order to make a case against you.
My question is, "Am I over analyzing this?"
If all the proper channels are followed, it should be no different than any other firearm, however logic and the law do not always intersect.
What do you think?
My hang up is this:
One of the main reasons that I want one is for self defense in the home and not losing all hearing ability after using a fire arm in my home (God forbid).
My concern is regarding the perception of these tools. Even after going through all the proper channels, (taxes, fees, stamps, trusts, etc). I could see this being used against you if you had to utilize one in defense. It would not surprise me to see a district attorney utilize the negative perception of "silencers" in order to make a case against you.
My question is, "Am I over analyzing this?"
If all the proper channels are followed, it should be no different than any other firearm, however logic and the law do not always intersect.
What do you think?