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No doubt. Once I'm aware I would never carry. Now I'm no longer going to Katy Mills except for Bass Pro.
It's pathetic that I had to learn of the sign on the internet.

chamberc wrote:

G192627 wrote:

KC5AV wrote:

G192627 wrote: No. It's not properly posted. There is no sign as you enter Bass Pro, and if you walk out of Bass Pro straight into Katy Mills, there is no sign there either. The only way to see a sign is to walk into the mall via a mall entrance. If you go in through Bass Pro or one of the other anchor stores, you will not see a sign. I still have not seen a sign in the 10 or so times I've been since getting my CHL and that's because I've entered through Bass Pro each time.

It's doesn't have to be posted at every entrance. It just has to be 'conspicuously' posted. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean that it isn't properly posted.

Ok. That's the crux of my whole question then. There are those that say if it's not at every door, then you have not been given 'proper notice' until you see the sign.
My original question asks about that very subject.

Until it's tested in court, there isn't a definitive answer.

Well, I guess that's it then. :)
I am going to do my best to make sure I'm not the subject of said test. I've read about 2 places here online that are posted, but I didn't see because of their poor posting.

And I've decided I'm not seeing movies at an AMC theater or buying jewelry at Jarrod's.

KC5AV wrote:

G192627 wrote: No. It's not properly posted. There is no sign as you enter Bass Pro, and if you walk out of Bass Pro straight into Katy Mills, there is no sign there either. The only way to see a sign is to walk into the mall via a mall entrance. If you go in through Bass Pro or one of the other anchor stores, you will not see a sign. I still have not seen a sign in the 10 or so times I've been since getting my CHL and that's because I've entered through Bass Pro each time.

It's doesn't have to be posted at every entrance. It just has to be 'conspicuously' posted. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean that it isn't properly posted.

Ok. That's the crux of my whole question then. There are those that say if it's not at every door, then you have not been given 'proper notice' until you see the sign.
My original question asks about that very subject.

Keith B wrote:

92f-fan wrote:

Keith B wrote:However, you are actually aware of the posting at Katy Mills, so once you go into the mall and not Bass Pro who is firearm friendly, you would be in violation.

And that would have to be proven

Not sure what you mean. Katy Mills is properly posted, so entering into the mall is a violation if you are aware of the posting or walk past a 30.06 sign.

No. It's not properly posted. There is no sign as you enter Bass Pro, and if you walk out of Bass Pro straight into Katy Mills, there is no sign there either. The only way to see a sign is to walk into the mall via a mall entrance. If you go in through Bass Pro or one of the other anchor stores, you will not see a sign. I still have not seen a sign in the 10 or so times I've been since getting my CHL and that's because I've entered through Bass Pro each time.

Keith B wrote:However, you are actually aware of the posting at Katy Mills, so once you go into the mall and not Bass Pro who is firearm friendly, you would be in violation.

Correct. I'm aware now. I wasn't until I read the 30.06 web site this morning!
Next time, I'll go shop at Bass Pro, and nobody inside Katy Mills is getting another dime from me.

Well, you might think so, but Grapevine PD will arrest you (or at least pursue charges) if you carry past the non-compliant signs at Grapevine Mills Mall and are discovered carrying.

Ah, good to know. The mall I'm thinking of is Katy Mills in Katy, Texas. Coincidentally, it's owned by the same people as Grapevine Mills.
There is a Bass Pro attached, and it is NOT posted. I always go in through those doors just because I like Bass Pro to browse.

Keith. Thanks for the informative and polite reply.

I'm a noob here, but not new to forums in general. I did try the search, and frankly, there was sooooo much information on 30.06 postings, and 'given notice' that it was difficult to find specifically this answer, so I appreciate your response and I appreciate the polite way of reminding the noobie to 'search'.

I think your answer is dead on. That was my guess as I was typing up my question. Texas being Texas, I think your odds are in your favor assuming you've used your rights properly in true SD.

I have a question about this given proper notice loophole that is in the law. In particular the 30.06 signs being proper notice.
On the 30.06 website that has all the sign postings, there is a discussion regarding a mall that has signs at its main entrance, but not on all the other entrances including entrances to anchor stores that then allow passage into the mall.

If you go through a non-posted entrance, then are inside carrying 'without proper notice' and are forced to use your gun to defend yourself inside, will you be arrested?
The legit excuse, in this situation, is that you didn't see a sign because it wasn't posted on the door you came in, but wouldn't that always be an 'excuse' people would give?

As I type this, I am guessing you'd be questioned heavily (personally I wouldn't answer without an attorney), and if they found that there is in fact un-posted doors along with other factors like the fact that your car is near one of these doors, so it lends to your case that you came in that way, that you'd be let go.
So, I'm guessing you'd be taken in for questioning and let go, but what's the answer? Am I estimating incorrectly on this one?

I ask because I've done this. I've carried in a mall that has postings at one entrance, but not at their anchor stores' entrances. I come in through one particular anchor store almost every time and didn't see a sign ever, but when browsing the 30.06 page, I found this mall was posted!