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Jumping Frog wrote: It is rare for a felon to have their right to self defense recognized. I see the 2 women could still see repercussions

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karl wrote:

philip964 wrote:Man enters your house after dark, hits you, you retreat, grab a fireplace tool and hit the intruder. You hit the intruder after he has fallen to the ground. Your internal video system captures you doing this.

Are you guilty of a crime in Texas? (remember you could have just opened up with your shotgun and would have been within your rights)

What about if its during the daytime? Does anything change?

Your a bank teller, a man jumps the counter and hits you.....

Strange man comes into your office at work and begins beating your receptionist, she screams for help....

Completely different. He ran away, crisis averted. It damages one's ego, but let the justice system handle it. A place of business is not your castle. The moment he retreated the threat was over. The fact that he would have been justified in defending himself is irrelevant because of his choice to run away.

Rikk101 wrote:Lots of different opinions on this one..........Let me throw in another angle on the situation. Once he had them beat down on the floor and he continued beating them in the head with an iron rod, he started inflicting some serious damage ......even to the point of endangering their lives. Now, suppose you had just walked in at this point, unaware of how it all got started, with your concealed weapon and, seeing someone being attacked on the floor with an iron rod, you react to save her life by shooting the MickeyD's employee. Would that be a justified shooting?

Good question but I would think so.
Now how about this...how about you were there when it all started and you saw the events unfold from the first bad decision to the last one. Would you still be justified?
I don't know for sure but I'm leaning towards yes. Reason being is that the idiot women in this video were being whooped up on something good and were just cowering on the floor and taking it.
Even if they started it and with everything else that happened in the video(employee retreating and reemerging with a weapon) I would have given him the first couple of whacks since they were probably still aging him on but once they are on the ground and still taking the beating I think it becomes a defense of 3rd party situation....but I could be wrong. I don't know how the justice system would look at this.
Then, after its all said and done.....the women need to be read their rights too and, at least the one that slapped the employee, get hooked up on assault charges.

JJVP wrote:I'm going to have to disagree. He was fine when he went back, got the metal bar and took the first swing at them. When they retreated and then fell to the ground, and then he continue hitting them while on the ground, he crossed the line between self defense and assault. Just like the pharmacist that shot some guys trying to rob him. He was fine (self defense) until he went back, got a second gun and shot the guy that was wounded and defenseless on the ground. He crossed the line between self defense and murder.

fishman wrote:Right, once the perp stops he should stop. Maybe I should just say I don't feel sorry for the perp.

Exactly what I was going to say. If they are on the ground they aren't a threat anymore.
After the first few whacks it went from being SD to him making it personal and not having control of his temper.
He shouldn't have come back with the rod. IMO he should have just gone hand-to-hand with them OR retreat to the pipe and if the continue to follow then give them a few whacks but I think he was wrong for removing himself from the situation and then reappearing just to take a few swings.
Yes the women stated it while he was only trying to do his job but I don't have a problem with him being charged.
The women should be charged as well. Just because they got a butt whooping doesn't mean their offences didn't take place.