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- Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:58 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Legality of carrying in a school building
- Replies: 11
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Re: Legality of carrying in a school building
Yes, where you are, and who is in your jury pool, can affect the size of the grey area.
- Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:19 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Legality of carrying in a school building
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1018
Re: Legality of carrying in a school building
I mostly agree with Howdy, with a few personal clarifications.
Several years ago I spent a fair amount of time studying this. As a parent and educator, I was on and around school campuses a lot and wanted to be on the legal side of the line. It isn't always clear, so I tried to figure out what I considered to be legally defendable. I believe unauthorized school carry is still a felony - a very different consequence that carrying past a 30.06 sign.
Field trips: If I am in a restaurant and my child's group is to - OK. If I have school approval to accompany the group to the restaurant - NOT OK.
Parking Lot/Common Areas: Present-day school security being what it is, you have to pass through a locked door or gate to enter. Anywhere outside of that - OK, unless the school is conducting an official activity there. Example - parking lot pep rally or send off for the volleyball team - NOT OK.
What is a school to me? Now that college campus carry is legal, it is an institution with an accreditation to confer a high school degree (or a portion of that degree in the case of a school that does not operate through grade 12). In Texas, that accrediting body is the TEA for public schools, and either TEPSAC or IALDS for private schools. https://tea.texas.gov/texas-schools/acc ... ion-status
Now remember - "(A) pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the school or institution"
In the case of an accredited school in a church, the school (principal/superintendent/board) can authorize anyone they want to carry. They could authorize "all members of the congregation" to carry as far as I know. That has always been there - the School Guardian and similar programs are more recent and have an additional level of training and organization.
YMMV
Enjoy!
Jeff
Several years ago I spent a fair amount of time studying this. As a parent and educator, I was on and around school campuses a lot and wanted to be on the legal side of the line. It isn't always clear, so I tried to figure out what I considered to be legally defendable. I believe unauthorized school carry is still a felony - a very different consequence that carrying past a 30.06 sign.
Field trips: If I am in a restaurant and my child's group is to - OK. If I have school approval to accompany the group to the restaurant - NOT OK.
Parking Lot/Common Areas: Present-day school security being what it is, you have to pass through a locked door or gate to enter. Anywhere outside of that - OK, unless the school is conducting an official activity there. Example - parking lot pep rally or send off for the volleyball team - NOT OK.
What is a school to me? Now that college campus carry is legal, it is an institution with an accreditation to confer a high school degree (or a portion of that degree in the case of a school that does not operate through grade 12). In Texas, that accrediting body is the TEA for public schools, and either TEPSAC or IALDS for private schools. https://tea.texas.gov/texas-schools/acc ... ion-status
Now remember - "(A) pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the school or institution"
In the case of an accredited school in a church, the school (principal/superintendent/board) can authorize anyone they want to carry. They could authorize "all members of the congregation" to carry as far as I know. That has always been there - the School Guardian and similar programs are more recent and have an additional level of training and organization.
YMMV
Enjoy!
Jeff