I would agree with you on that - those people elected those city officials after all. I don't know that the rank and file officers in those areas have the same view as their chiefs, or the liberal voters.Flightmare wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:17 pmI would counter by saying that many metropolitan areas which have chiefs who parrot city leadership are home to many left leaning individuals who elect that same city leadership. Even making chief an elected position would likely result in a similar political stance. Perhaps even MORE "political" as they would be more likely to run their department as a political division, as opposed to law enforcement.Boxerrider wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:30 amI only notice police chiefs from metropolitan areas being vocal against constitutional carry. That's a small percentage of Texas' law enforcement community. Police chief is a hired/appointed position, not elected, and that can make them more likely to parrot the policies of city leadership instead of the will of the citizens.Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:35 am Why is law enforcement so opposed to the legislature codifying this to prevent harassment and abuse by LEOs of honest, law abiding citizens?
Law enforcement says that it will make their jobs harder by taking way a tool, but this is a tool that they already shouldn't have since after this passes, no law would be broken by the mere possession of a handgun in public.
Do all LEOs assume that every person they encounter is a felon? Seems like a negative way to start any encounter with the public.
LEOs I know assume that every person is armed all of the time. It isn't a negative perspective for them in most cases, but rather a precautionary one.
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- Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:08 pm
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- Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:51 am
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Re: TX: Lt Gov Patrick says not enough Senate votes to pass Con Carry
TSRA already has resources - https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/handgun-licensing and I expect that to be updated, and to possibly expand, with the passage of constitutional carry.RHenriksen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:40 amhttp://www.safer-maine.org/moodle/RHenriksen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:41 am "Require the Texas Department of Public Safety to create a free, online gun safety course"
Gun Owners of Maine created a free online training course; eventually the state police officially accepted proof of completion of that course as meeting the requirements for a carry permit! Great private/public partnership.
- Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:30 am
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Re: TX: Lt Gov Patrick says not enough Senate votes to pass Con Carry
I only notice police chiefs from metropolitan areas being vocal against constitutional carry. That's a small percentage of Texas' law enforcement community. Police chief is a hired/appointed position, not elected, and that can make them more likely to parrot the policies of city leadership instead of the will of the citizens.Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:35 am Why is law enforcement so opposed to the legislature codifying this to prevent harassment and abuse by LEOs of honest, law abiding citizens?
Law enforcement says that it will make their jobs harder by taking way a tool, but this is a tool that they already shouldn't have since after this passes, no law would be broken by the mere possession of a handgun in public.
Do all LEOs assume that every person they encounter is a felon? Seems like a negative way to start any encounter with the public.
LEOs I know assume that every person is armed all of the time. It isn't a negative perspective for them in most cases, but rather a precautionary one.