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Tote 9 wrote:If it happened exactly like the post said, then in my book he's guilty of murder.

Just for the sake of conversation, I disagree.

If the dead guy demanded money and had a "shiny object" in his hand, he was committing robbery. The article just says "tool." Someone can cause fatal injuries with a hammer, screwdriver, or Crescent wrench.

However, PC §9.32(2) comes into play here, because once the man had access to his vehicle, he could have retreated.

I wouldn't want to be in his shoes, but I don't think it's murder.

- Jim

longtooth wrote:Remembering back, I dont remember anything fun about:...

What I remember is too much cigarette smoke and stale beer, obnoxious drunks, trying to talk over loud music, funny stuff happening in the bathroom, and getting attention I didn't want from sleazy women. (Of course this goes double for women getting attention from sleazy men.)

- Jim

The patron went to his pickup truck to get his gun,...

Better to get in the truck and make tracks.

Nothing good happens in bars. I wasted enough time in them to know.

- Jim