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by seamusTX
Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: what would you do?
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Re: what would you do?

Probably you are right. It has been four years now, and we don't see prosecutions of bona fide defenders.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:21 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: what would you do?
Replies: 50
Views: 6281

Re: what would you do?

Unfortunately that defense is not available to a customer of a business or a person who is in a public place.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:27 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: what would you do?
Replies: 50
Views: 6281

Re: what would you do?

I am truly, deeply concerned that this question exists.

Texas law defines robbery:
PC 29.02. ROBBERY. (a) A person commits an offense if, in the course of committing theft as defined in Chapter 31 and with intent to obtain or maintain control of the property, he:
(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes bodily injury to another; or
(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens or places another in fear of imminent bodily injury or death.
You can see how prosecutors charge robbery. Any use of force, even shoving or pulling on a purse, makes it aggravated robbery.

Then Texas law gives the justifications for use of deadly force:
PC 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
Done deal. No grand jury would indict a woman for shooting a robber of a beauty salon.

Where are these supposed anti-gun DAs? Rosenthal was forced into retirement, and even he did not prosecute legitimate self-defense cases.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: what would you do?
Replies: 50
Views: 6281

Re: what would you do?

drjoker wrote:P.S. I think that all these crazy "what if" situations where it's impossible to come out a "winner" are started by anti 2nd A posters.
Like the Kobayashi Maru?

No-win scenarios are are well worth discussing.
Always sit near the exit. That way, you could leave
Like at the dentist, right?

- Jim
by seamusTX
Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:20 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: what would you do?
Replies: 50
Views: 6281

Re: what would you do?

SewTexas wrote:I'm not sure why they think beauty shops 'take in cash' everyone pays with a CC these days...and this one was hit 2 hours after opening...they were specifically after purses.
Being male I go to a barber shop. They don't even accept plastic. With multiple barbers, they might take in $100 per hour in cash.

I can't speak for the thinking process of robbers.

I've said many times that robbery is a loser's game. The average career of a robber is about a year before they are arrested or killed.

I think there is an aspect of power-tripping to robbery, which makes it a close sibling of rape and kidnapping. I won't tell anyone else what to think or do, but I am not certain that "just give them what they want" works with robbers. There are too many examples of compliant robbery victims being humiliated, raped, or killed.

I also have never heard of a crime victim saying, "I wish I had just gone along instead of fighting back."

- Jim
by seamusTX
Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:04 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: what would you do?
Replies: 50
Views: 6281

Re: what would you do?

Fighting like your life was on the line might be a good idea. I dunno.

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Barber shops and hairdressers are prime robbery targets because they take in a lot of cash. I'm surprised they are not robbed more often than they are. Women are more vulnerable to kidnapping and rape. Some criminals seem to want to kill just for the sake of doing evil.

- Jim

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