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baldeagle wrote:If there were any law-abiding people in that bar, they most have freaked out when they saw the armaments. Maybe they applied for their CHL the next morning.

I knew of that bar (I think they lost their license as a result of that incident). I have nothing generous to say about anyone who would willingly go there. If it wasn't the illegal drugs, it was the fights and "working girls."

i8godzilla wrote:... my issue is that if he had the opportunity to get the weapon out of the truck/car, maybe he had the opportunity to just get in and lock the door. I was not there so it may not be the case.

If he were alone, I would be the first to agree. However, he was there with his wife and another person. You just don't bail out on your wife.

- Jim

WildBill wrote:IMO, this is the main reason for existence of the 51% Sign.

I'm sure that's the thinking, but it's the typical legislative attitude that they can control crime by restricting the activities of law-abiding people.

The Galveston police busted up a bar where drugs were allegedly being sold. Half the people that they searched had weapons, or illegal drugs, or both, or open warrants; and a couple were illegal aliens. I thought that was a pretty impressive clientele.

- Jim

Raising the gun in your direction or pointing it at you would be justification to shoot.

I agree that self-defense would be justified in response to an unprovoked act. However, in this case, it seems that the aforementioned customs agent "asked for it" by being confrontational in the bar and then "taking it outside."

- Jim

The licensed premises of a bar often include the parking lot.

Whether the bar owner was legally entitled to carry on the exact square foot of ground he was standing on is irrelevant. It would be a misdemeanor if he were in the wrong.

Maybe the open carry advocates can explain how someone who "sees a gun" is entitled to shoot the person with the gun. That could get messy if it were a widespread practice.

- Jim

I don't suppose testosterone was involved.

- Jim

Well, now we get to line up and take sides on who may have been justified, the bar owner who is legally allowed to pack to maintain order in his establishment, or the "customer" who got into an "altercation" in a bar.

- Jim

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Genius.

- Jim