If you have experience with U.S. military personnel performing illegal and unconstitutional actions, maybe you should talk to someone about it.
- Jim
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- Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:34 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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- Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:32 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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Re: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
As I said earlier in different words, they don't need to confiscate weapons. That would be costly and messy. No government that is run by sane people wants to kill taxpayers.
They just need to make it extremely expensive to shoot, so that only the privileged classes can do it. That is how these things are done.
- Jim
They just need to make it extremely expensive to shoot, so that only the privileged classes can do it. That is how these things are done.
- Jim
- Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:40 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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Re: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
That's one way of looking at the issue, but they pretty much have to follow that policy (stare decisis). Otherwise appellants would continue to bring the same or similar cases repeatedly. As it is, the U.S. Supreme Court refuses to hear about 90% of the cases that are filed.The Supreme Court is often almost childishly reluctant to admit that it has ever been wrong.
- Jim
- Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:34 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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Re: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
Nixon, Reagan, and Bill Clinton were all supposed to "destroy the country." When George W. Bush was president, the loony left was talking about Bush declaring a state of emergency and canceling the 2008 elections, plus secret detention camps.
None of this happened, though Obama somehow inherited the secret detention camps.
I have problems closer to home that I can lose sleep over.
- Jim
None of this happened, though Obama somehow inherited the secret detention camps.
I have problems closer to home that I can lose sleep over.
- Jim
- Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:25 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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Re: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
The entire force of the U.S. military armed with machine guns, RPGs, APCs, and close air support cannot disarm or control the people of Fallujah or Kandahar.So why should we believe that there is little threat of gun confiscation in the future, ...
How are a bunch of civilian cops outnumbered 100-to-1 going to do it in an American city? How long do you think they would keep trying with a 50% per day mortality rate?
There is no precedent for foreign military forces operating on U.S. territory. Any president who tried such a thing would face mass resignation if not mutiny from the U.S. military and immediate impeachment regardless of party loyalty.
- Jim
- Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:18 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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Re: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
As an NRA member, I am well aware that that occurred.Perhaps you are not aware that teams of LEOs were dispatched through areas of New Orleans after Katrina to seize guns from citizens in their homes.
Any such action is now illegal under Louisiana, U.S., and Texas law, along with many other states that passed similar laws after Katrina.
Many evil, immoral, and unconstitutional acts have occurred during American history. Many, such as the internment of American citizens of Japanese descent, were popular with the majority at the time. Most are illegal now, apologies have been issued, and they are unlikely to occur again as long as the public watchdogs stay awake.
This country is all we have. There is nowhere else to go. No one said that maintaining freedom was easy or cheap.
- Jim
- Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:46 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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Re: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
So what are you going to do to preserve freedom?
- Jim
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- Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:37 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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Re: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
The currently serving justices that, shall we say, the years are weighing most heavily on are (with their birth years)danpaw wrote:All of you that are so re-assured by recent supreme court decisions, just let our current administration stay in power another 6 yrs and see what the supreme court make up looks like.
- Ginsburg 1933
- Scalia 1936
- Kennedy 1936
If Justice Scalia were to be replaced by an Obama appointee, the composition of the court would become significantly different.
Justice Ginsburg has been the weakest on the RKBA, so replacing her with another liberal justice will make no difference.
Justice Kennedy has been the so-called swing vote on many issues, so his replacement, whenever that might come about, will be a wild card.
That said, even if the court were to be tilted to a lukewarm or anti-RKBA position, overturning precedent is extremely difficult when members who established that precedent (including the Chief Justice) are still sitting on the court.
Then, there is no political will in Congress for new "gun control" legislation and has not been for years.
To get to a scenario where "the feds" are going door-to-door confiscating guns is beyond any process that could occur in the foreseeable future.
As for the feds knowing whether any particular person owns firearms, as has been said, there are so many ways to do it that having a CHL is hardly worth worrying about.
- Jim
- Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:25 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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Re: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
If the political will existed to "ban guns" in the U.S., the powers that be would not go door-to-door confiscating them. After about three days of trying that, the job would prove so dangerous that no one would do it.
The late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan realized in the 1970s that the way to destroy the right to keep and bear arms is to tax ammunition prohibitively.
At ten cents per round (a box of .22 LR costing $60-70), recreational shooting becomes effectively unaffordable except for wealthy shotgunners. Ranges shut down for lack of business. Then there is nowhere legal to shoot except hunting preserves. The population of firearms owners ages out until only a few fanatics remain.
However, not even Cook County, Illinois, could pass such a tax when it was proposed.
- Jim
The late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan realized in the 1970s that the way to destroy the right to keep and bear arms is to tax ammunition prohibitively.
At ten cents per round (a box of .22 LR costing $60-70), recreational shooting becomes effectively unaffordable except for wealthy shotgunners. Ranges shut down for lack of business. Then there is nowhere legal to shoot except hunting preserves. The population of firearms owners ages out until only a few fanatics remain.
However, not even Cook County, Illinois, could pass such a tax when it was proposed.
- Jim
- Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:49 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
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Re: If licensed to carry, will the Feds come get my gun?
The people in the black helicopters have X ray machines that can see through walls. They already know who has guns. Also, if you have an American, Texas, or Confederate flag, they will come for you first.
Seriously, for the past 40 years (since I was old enough to pay attention) I have been hearing about the "new world order," race wars, communist invasion, U.N. takeover, secret detention camps, etc.—also the imminent Second Coming.
I'm still waiting.
- Jim
Seriously, for the past 40 years (since I was old enough to pay attention) I have been hearing about the "new world order," race wars, communist invasion, U.N. takeover, secret detention camps, etc.—also the imminent Second Coming.
I'm still waiting.
- Jim