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by seamusTX
Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:18 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

Being put on administrative leave is often the first step toward being fired.

Many teachers' unions have a due process for firing where the person has a period of administrative leave followed by a hearing before the school board.

It is also possible they will let her do busy work until the end of the school year and then not renew her contract.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:23 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

UpTheIrons wrote:... doesn't that look like a shotgun
Yes, it's a shotgun. I'd say 12-gauge.

I didn't notice that. The photo is really small on my laptop, and blurry. I copied it and blew it up.

I took the word rifle from the story.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:30 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

Five of the nine points for Texas are for the law that makes it an offense to allow a child unsupervised access to a loaded firearm.

I doubt that one will be repealed. The rhetoric that trying to repeal it would generate would be hysterical.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:07 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

You can delete your own message only when it is the last one in the thread.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:51 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

Many if not most digital cameras have a remote control that allows one to take such a photo with complete safety.

I would like to know the context. If she was writing about target shooting or deer hunting, fine. If she was wishing she could line up her students in the cross hairs, she may need a mental workup.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:59 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

Different standards apply to government employees as opposed to employees of private businesses or corporations.

Certain actions of government can be considered violations of the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. That includes firing people for speech or political affiliation. Private organizations do not have these limitations.

I also very much doubt that Wisconsin is an at-will state, though I'm too lazy to look it up.

Even in Texas, state employees can be fired only for documented cause. It's not difficult to document a cause for most problem employees, but the circumstances described in this case would not cut it.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:32 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

stevie_d_64 wrote:My concern about this is the fact that my wife already has her Texas CHL and a current Utah permit...

She is about to complete her certification (mid May '09) to teach here in the state of Texas...
In the first place, several teachers on this forum have CHLs and have had no problem at work.

I don't know exactly what the background check for teachers comprises, but I'm guessing it would be for arrests, convictions, and mental health problems. There's no reason to check whether the applicant has a license to do anything that is perfectly legal, whether it is a pilot or plumber license or CHL.

Also, GC 411.192 states that the CHL holder will be informed of any queries of his or her CHL status.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:23 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

flb_78 wrote:Remember the good ole days when teachers were fired for sleeping with their students? :smilelol5:
Sleeping wasn't the problem. It was what they did when they were awake. :lol:

- Jim
by seamusTX
Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:10 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

She may have a basis for suing because it is a public school, and they are infringing her right to freedom of expression.

It also depends upon state law and the teachers union contract. It's more difficult to fire employees working for public schools than businesses, even in Texas.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:51 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

Re: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

Everyone in Wisconsin is not a liberal. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more hunters per capita than in Texas, because there's a lot open land where you can hunt.

These less-than-zero tolerance policies are everywhere. I've heard of thing like kids being disciplined for drawing weapons -- i mean drawing with a pencil or crayon.

- Jim
by seamusTX
Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:21 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle
Replies: 61
Views: 6161

WI: Teacher fired over photo of herself with rifle

In Beaver Dam, Wisconsin, a middle-school teacher was put on administrative leave after school officials found a photo of her aiming a rifle at the camera on her Facebook page.

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I don't know the school policy on teachers' activities that are not related to the school. Many such policies contain a vague moral-turpitude clause.

This is why I am very careful about letting anyone who can fire me know that I have anything to do with firearms.

- Jim

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