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juggernaut wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:I don't think that the car's owner deserves a prison sentence, but he did cause a man's death in retaliation for a very minor offense, even if the result was unintentional.

Consider a similar situation.

A woman is walking and a man starts to approach her. She tells him to stop. He keeps coming.
Moore told Davis to get away from his car. He didn't.

She tells him again to stay away from her. He keeps coming.
"Davis ignored requests to stop"

She displays a gun and repeats her request to stop. (force but not deadly force)
"Moore pushed Davis away" (force but not deadly force)

The man takes a step back, trips, falls, hits his head on the pavement and dies.
"Davis fell, hit his head on the pavement and died."

Do any of you think she should be charged in his death in this situation?

Totally different Like comparing apples to oranges.

KD5NRH wrote:

seniorshooteress wrote:Guess I missed something; didn't see where the panhandler was tearing up the guy's car. If that was the case why didn't he just call 911. I am sure he had insurance to cover the damager to his car and probalbly cost a lot less on deductable than what it cost for a lawyer and possibly years of his life in prison.

Turn in your gun. After all, you can get insurance to cover anything the bad guys might do.

Don't think I will be turning in my gun any time soon. Even though I know I can get life insurance. To me a Bad guy is the one trying to harm my person. Material things can be replaced, life can't.

Guess I missed something; didn't see where the panhandler was tearing up the guy's car. If that was the case why didn't he just call 911. I am sure he had insurance to cover the damager to his car and probalbly cost a lot less on deductable than what it cost for a lawyer and possibly years of his life in prison.

Why should there have been an altercation at all? Driving a BMW, let the guy wash the windows, hand him a $5 drive off. No complications. Maybe the BMW driver was having a bad day or only carried credit cards. Either way was no excuse for touching the panhandler. Just remember the old saying: but for the grace of God, that could be me (trying to wash car windows for money) Reminds of a day I pulled into a service station and a guy came up to my window and said he was traveling from up north and had run out of gasoline. He had some tools he was trying to sell and some electrical stuff he said he was an electrician. I gave him $20.00 , told him I had no need for the tools or other stuff and wished him good luck. Could have been a scam but he did have out of state tags on the vehicle he was getting the stuff out of and he was dressed neatly, didn't smell of alcohol, clean shaven, etc. Another time there was a raggedy looking gentleman outside the grocery store asking for money to buy water. I went inside the store, bought a gallon of water and took it out to him. Both of these guys seemed to appreicate it. Guess I am just a sucker for a sob story, huh? BTW both of these incidents happened during daytime, and I Had other people in the car with me. If I had been alone at these times could have been different. I may have just said no and driven off.