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Gorgeous stone at Choctaw. We pass by a large retail stone company on the way to Choctaw and I always say "gee, look at all that gorgeous stone". I love stonework....both hardscape and inside homes. My best friend has a guest bath that has a brick floor (bricks are laid on edge I think) and it's really great looking. I never imaged brick would look so good as a flooring. The rest of the home has hand scraped wood, slate and travertine (I think) floors. Marble speckled deep green counters in the kitchen and master bath and black marble in the 1/2 bath. The only stone I have at my house is a tumbled stone patio for my backyard. Even if I could afford stone, I can't afford the labor.

Well my poor little Five Seven is back home and in my safe. I asked my dealer how he found out that the wrong FFL dealer had the Five Seven and he told me that Fed Ex actually tracked it down. Fed Ex knew the date and approximate time the package was delivered to Fed Ex and so I guess they tracked down the packages that went out during that same time period and found the darn thing. My dealer did send it to the wrong FFL and had the wrong tracking number. I call the dealer in SD today and he indeed had received the gun and was holding it for the "customer" (who of course never called him). Inside the gun case was my dealer's FFL with phone number and my name with my phone number and the buyer's name (no phone number). I'll always wonder how long the SD dealer would have kept that Five Seven on his shelf/in his safe.

But alls well that ends well. I have my Five Seven and it looks just as new as when I left it off for shipping. My dealer gave me back my shipping fee and I didn't mention the auction fee that I had to pay when I sold the gun (Merry Christmas). He has more gray hair than before this incident and I already have some gray hair so no big deal. His wife said he was sweating having to pay for a Five Seven and that he'll be sure to get a receipt for every shipment from now on (at least he will with my shipments I'm sure).

I have a copy of the police report. He already notified the police and ATF that the gun had been found. He is going to have the police run the serial in a few weeks to see that it is not showing up as stolen any longer. That's all I would need, to be stopped by the police (for speeding no doubt), have them run my Five Seven's serial and arrest me for having a stolen gun.

Well I'm off to Choctaw for a little R&R and some slot/blackjack action. Taking my 83 year old mother gambling for her birthday and will stay a couple of nights at their new hotel. Will soak in the indoor pool and go to the spa. My mother normally comes back with all of her money or a little extra, I don't know how she has such good luck. I literally have to pry her hands off the slot machine handles to get her to finally come home. As for me, I may as well just burn my money now.

I am keeping the Five Seven for now. Later if I need the money I'll put it up for sale locally.

Well he shipped four guns for me within a 2 week period. A USPS tracking number never showed signature delivery for one of the guns so I emailed the dealer and he did have the gun and the customer picked it up. In the email I asked the receiving dealer what the tracking number was on the package but all he said was that he received the gun (probably didn't have the packaging any more). I have email traffic that the other three guns were received so I'll keep that on hand.

I do know who the SD dealer was because he was shipped a gun that I sold a few days before the Five Seven went out. I will call him to check that the Five Seven was sent back to my dealer and see what he says.

FOLLOW-UP

It appears my Five Seven has been recovered and is being shipped back to my dealer. I'm a little unclear how my dealer found out, but the gun was shipped to the wrong FFL dealer (in SD) who supposedly put it away waiting for the customer to call. My dealer didn't have a receipt for the Fed Ex shipment and didn't know it was delivered and being held by the wrong dealer. And that dealer didn't call my dealer or the customer when the gun was received (info was inside the package). Maybe he called today which is how my dealer found out, I'm just not sure. Anyway, that's what I was told.

Once the gun is received (Friday or Monday) my dealer will notify the police, ATF and FedEx that the gun was found. I'm still holding my breath that the gun indeed shows up. And it better be in like new condition!!!

Last week I refunded the full price of the purchase to my buyer (including shipping/insurance fee, fee for money order and priority mailing fee for sending the money order). I was the one responsible for getting the gun to my buyer and so I feel that I was the one to refund every bit of his money, not my dealer. That's just the way I think things should work.

So, assuming I do get back my gun, I'm out the GB auction fee and the shipping/transfer fee I paid to my dealer. Of course I feel certain my dealer will work with me on that.

I'm was so stressed out about this particular gun nearly being lost/stolen that I'm keeping it for now. I already spent the money I "thought" I had for another gun but at this point I'm in no mood to resell/ship this gun again. December is a hectic month for me. I just got back into town from California and will be leaving town again next week for Oklahoma. Then it's Christmas and company coming. I may sell the gun later but will try a local sell first.

I'll post one more time once the gun is actually in my possession.

I feel bad too because I like him and I know his wife and kids. He works very hard as he has a full time job in addition to his FFL duties. I'm going to try to throw more business his way to help with his loss. And I'm still hoping he can work something out with FedEx since he knows some of the people at that facility pretty well. It's a sad event for everyone.

I am going to reimburse my buyer in full (purchase price of gun and shipping) and my FFL is going to reimburse me. I don't think it would be right to have my buyer have to work it out with my dealer. I'm the one who chose the dealer so I want to make it right for my buyer.

I'm suppose to meet with my dealer tomorrow after work for reimbursement and I'll mail a money order to my buyer that evening. My dealer is still hoping the gun will show up but it hasn't been scanned at any of the stops between here and the destination so I think it is certainly lost/stolen.

I have a feeling that it wasn't declared as a handgun in which case FedEx wouldn't have paid the insurance even if my FFL had a receipt. Of course now that they know it's a handgun maybe they'll put more effort into trying to find the package. I'm sorry this happened because I really like my dealer and I know it's tough to shell out that much money right here at Christmas time.

My dealer is going to report it as stolen to the ATF since he has all the details. He'll also report it to the police but needs to find out which police department has jurisdiction.....the one where the dealer does business or the one where the FedEx center is located (they are different).

Guess that's it. Still makes me sick knowing my gun is "out there somewhere" in the criminal world and that I could get a knock on my door about it some day. I'll get a copy of the police report and a statement from my dealer so that I'll have proof that it was indeed reported as stolen.

I think I'm done with selling any more guns for awhile, this has made me a nervous wreck (because I obsess over things like this and hate not having "closure").

Thanks for everyone's comments and suggestions.

Yes, today is "D-Day" as far as I'm concerned.

In my opinion, no one should just "drop off" a firearm, otherwise how would they collect the insurance from FedEX if FedEx says they don't have the package? I paid my FFL to ship and insure and if FedEx won't pony up then the FFL should have to. By not getting a receipt he basically is "self-insuring" it.

I'm suppose to hear from my FFL today.

FedEX is showing it was never scanned, that they just received billing info.

My dealer wants to wait until Monday or Tuesday to see if the gun shows up and if not it will have to be reported as stolen to the police and ATF.

The gun was taken to FedEx on Monday Nov 22nd. I am unclear what facility the gun was taken to and am assuming it was a store versus on of those drop boxes. I am also unclear what type service was paid for (i.e. overnight/next day, 2 day or ????). What makes me "wonder" about things is the fact that there is no receipt. That is awfully odd if you ask me.

Hopefully the gun will show up Monday/Tuesday. If not, things may get ugly. Thankfully the gun was logged into the dealer's log but that doesn't make me feel any better.

He logged it in his FFL log so it's a matter of record. He always logs it in while I am present.

He acknowledges that he had it to ship. I don't have a receipt,just the log book entry.

Well I agree. I'm just hoping it shows up. If not I'll see what the dealer is going to do. He shipped 4 guns for me in the last 2 weeks and it would have to be the Five Seven that was somehow mishandled. I just don't know what to think. In my opinion it would be awfully hard to NOT get a receipt. I have my suspicions of what may have happened but I'll wait and see.

I paid my dealer to ship and insure for $900-$1000 (I always insure guns that I ship). The issue is that the dealer/FFL did not get a receipt and FedEx is saying they never received the package so of course they won't pay for something they say they never got. Something is very fishy. I finally talked to my dealer and he wants to wait until Monday/Tuesday to see if the gun shows up and if not we'll go from there.

My prediction is that I'm going to have to reimburse the buyer and then try to get reimbursed by the dealer since I entrusted the gun with him and paid him to ship/insure the gun. I think the gun is long gone and even though it's the dealer who lost control of it, it just makes me want to throw up thinking one of my guns was stolen. And a Five Seven of all guns!!!!!

I sold my Five Seven and the purchaser called me and said it never arrived. The FedEx tracking number I have merely shows the shipment was initiated and FedEx claims they never received it. At this time I can only assume the gun was stolen by someone at FedEx because my dealer/FFL said he shipped it. I've used the dealer to ship my guns for a long time and if he said he shipped it then I believe him (although supposedly he doesn't have a receipt and so FedEx basically told him to take a hike). Obviously this issue is not resolved.....


I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to sell it at the Dallas Market Hall gunshow this weekend but just in case, I'm posting the serial number and description.

SERIAL: 386211098
FN Five Seven ODG - case is the newer plastic with sky blue inside, has 3 20-round mags and all the manuals, etc. It is LNIB.