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by propellerhead
Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:49 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Trying to purchase a firearm from out of state
Replies: 10
Views: 860

I ended up going to the FFL and obtaining a copy of the FFL. I'll mail it myself along with a bank tellers check. As I dug deeper and found that:

Only rifles can be shipped by USPS. Handguns have to go through FedEx/UPS.

I can purchase a firearm from an out of state source as long as I go through an FFL on the buyer's end. I did not see anything that says the seller must go through an FFL too.

Paypal's firearm policy sucks.
by propellerhead
Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:11 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Trying to purchase a firearm from out of state
Replies: 10
Views: 860

Trying to purchase a firearm from out of state

What a mess!

It shouldn't be this complicated. I replied to the seller's thread on a message board and we eventually agreed on a price. I contacted an FFL locally and got them to fax the seller a copy of their license. The seller could not read the license so the FFL mailed a copy the next day. Great!

In the meantime, the seller's PayPal account is geared to accept payment from PayPal accounts linked to bank accounts. My PayPal account is linked to a credit card I use for online purchases only so I had to link it to an older bank account. To do that, the PayPal system has to send two small deposits to my bank account and when those show up, I was to enter the amounts into a verification page at PayPal. This was done late Thursday so I didn't see the deposits till Monday. By the end of Monday, I was able to verify the link and my PayPal account is now linked to a bank account. Great!

PayPal figured out that the seller is using PayPal for a firearms purchase. They cancel his account. After all that work I am now forced to send the seller a bank check. Ugh!

It's been a full week and the seller still hasn't received the license from the FFL. What the heck?! I contacted the store and they said they sent it out. They offered to send out another one but I decided to try a different FFL. Ugh!

I talked to another store and they said they would fax a copy and mail out a copy on the same day. Great! So I call the first store and cancel the whole deal. Fortunately, they didn't charge me any annoyance fees. The new place then tells me that they only accept handguns from other FFLs. They said the law says that the seller has to go to an FFL, then that FFL mails the gun to my FFL, and then I go see my FFL to pick it up. What?!

So, here I am. Over a week since we agreed on a price and nothing has happened yet. We're still at step one where we agreed on a price. What a mess! I think I will go to the first FFL place and get a legible copy and walk over to Kinko's and fax it myself.

What's the story on private sales from out of state? FFL to FFL only? Or can it be private seller to in-state FFL?

Does it really get this complicated?


/rant off

Edit: I went back to the first FFL and obtained a signed copy of their license. The contrast on that thing is terrible and there's a black background on the license number. I can see why this thing can come out screwy on older or lower quality fax machines. Anyway, I also got a bank check from my bank and mailed the FFL and bank check to the seller. What a pain. I don't think I'll be doing a non-FTF purchase again. Not unless it's a real steal of a deal.

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