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by RPB
Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:09 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
Replies: 48
Views: 7119

Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!

Reds45ACP wrote:
RPB wrote: 1)
You could still be fired ... for any reason at all, or no reason at all; Texas is not a "right to work State" so if you are "caught carrying" they might fire you because they do not like your shoes that day ... or because they'd prefer you part your hair on the other side, or because it is against "employee policy" or fired "just because" ... no reason, just because. (People are fired "for no reason at all" a lot because they think then they can't be sued as easily for firing them "for the wrong reason")
Texas is, in fact, a Right to Work state. You cannot be forced to join a union to hold a job. Not really sure what that has to do with anything mentioned here. :headscratch

https://www.oag.state.tx.us/agency/righttowork.shtml
Disagree due to context of this topic doesn't concern union membership:
AFAIK, The Office of Atty Genl Opinion calling it a "right to work State" only as far as it concerns Union membership; In other words, you can not be fired for joining a Union, or due to race religion, national origin ... other Federal restrictions


Texas is an “employment-at-will” state. in contrast to 23 states that have "Right to Work" laws
https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+% ... 16&bih=622" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas is an “employment-at-will” state. Generally, employees without a written employment contract can be fired for good cause, bad cause, or no cause at all.
But yes, as far as Union memberships are concerned, you can't be fired or forced to join or fired or forced to refrain from joining unions.
You also can't be fired for filing Worker's Compensation Claims for on the job injuries, so most who do file those claims are fired for other reasons or no reason at all ...
It's striped socks day for all workers who are in your department at your pay grade with your hair color and you didn't wear striped socks so, we'll have to let you go ...insubordination- Company Policy-Dress Code.

And a lot of the laws which protect the worker under Federal laws, only apply if an employer has over/in excess of a certain number of employees, so some companies intentionally "stay small" so they are not even subject to the regulations (though that has nothing to do with the City as an employer; I just threw it in for free :???: )
by RPB
Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:11 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
Replies: 48
Views: 7119

Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!

:iagree:
sjfcontrol wrote:
pbwalker wrote:
JT69 wrote:Thanks for the replys ! Still unclear to me ! Your not spost to enter were this signe is posted!!! But is this signe legally posted at the entrance!!! Are can people just post theme were ever they please??? Is their guidelines they have to meet to post the 30 06 signe???
:confused5
If I understand the question, the only restriction regarding WHERE the sign is posted, is
PC 30.06(c)(3)(B)(iii) wrote:...is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
At the entrance to the parking lot would seem to fulfill that requirement.
Except that if it is the city trying to post a 30.06 sign on city parking lot property, it can be ignored.
He might get fired; but it isn't a crime or illegal from the information I read.

So, no the city should not post an unenforceable sign there, but I would not tell them if I worked for the city and wanted to keep the job.

Some States penalize a city for things like hat, but in Texas a city can post the unenforceable signs wherever they want, but it is not a crime to ignore them on city property, if they are not in a location of a school, court or other off-limits location. Though like I said, they might fire you if they find out



I'm not a lawyer
by RPB
Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:52 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
Replies: 48
Views: 7119

Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!

JT69 wrote:Hello! I've been doing some research an haven't had much luck yet. My employer has had the signes on the building and that's fine, but now has added theme to the entrance's to the property that we park on!!! Can they do this? The.30 06 signes ? The little info I've found says yes if it's private and no if venders & customers can come in to parking lot to. Considered public!! I won't to have the right to carry back an forth from work because that's the biggest part of being out an about!! Right?? But don't wont to get fired either!! Thanks for any info on this. Forgive my spelling
JT69 wrote:Ok thanks on the posting info. And yes it is a city owned yard and I am a city employee!!! So one of used the 30 06 sign would Not apply!! What's this mean?? This post is being very helpful to me just I'm a country boy lol and I won't to be very clear and legal to carry !! I won't to beable to stand up for my right to carry and be right!!! Do need my job!!! It really sucks to have to worry about this!!! It really just pi••'s me off! :mad5
two different things here

1)
You could still be fired ... for any reason at all, or no reason at all; Texas is not a "right to work State" so if you are "caught carrying" they might fire you because they do not like your shoes that day ... or because they'd prefer you part your hair on the other side, or because it is against "employee policy" or fired "just because" ... no reason, just because. (People are fired "for no reason at all" a lot because they think then they can't be sued as easily for firing them "for the wrong reason")

2) Carrying in a 30.06 posted City Owned Parking lot, with a CHL probably means you can ignore that Improperly placed sign and it not be a criminal offense
Texas Penal Code 30.06
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035


Now, if there is a "governmental meeting" going on in the parking lot, then the sign is an enforceable 30.06 sign ... :roll:

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