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gigag04 wrote:

Sputz wrote:

gigag04 wrote:Cheapest I'd go is Palmetto State Armory or CMMG for the mid $700s.

+1 both good rifles. Honestly you could probably build your own at that price point and get exact features what you want. I built my two rifles out of spikes lowers/uppers and put them both together without any issues. One is a carbine and the other is a midlength both with adams arms pistons and malonited barrels. If you lived in the valley I would even let you use my tools which is just a vice, armorers wrench, roll pin starters, blocks and punches. There was a guy that sold machined blocks on arfcom for 30 bucks that were hard enough for me to drive the piston bushing into my spikes uppers without messing up the blocks.

Sputz

Every time I spec out a build it comes in at about $1900....

OH I understand now, it's like HP.shopping where you pick the cheapest $700 computer with the EIGHT CORE PROCESSOR then click "customize and buy" and after upgrading to the faster processor. more RAM and TV Tuner and larger hard drives so you can use it as a TV and TIVO/DVR, and better upgrade the surround sound card, better speakers, better video card and monitor and ... it is only $2,100
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Blindref757 wrote:I saw a complete Del-Ton NIB for $699 last week. I figured that I would need to put another 300 in Magpul furniture...so I bought a $1000 gun complete. But you can buy a steel AR that will go bang for $700.

I know nothing about these, I used to be an SKS/Mini-30 guy and all these from $699 to $1,250 all look alike to me; I *know a guy* with UNFIRED 1980s Remington 870 in a folder and UNFIRED SKS rifles in folders and detachable 52 round mags who likes to own stuff to "collect" and "just in case" but will probably never fire them; A Toyota that runs well " just in case" is as valuable to "him" as an accessorized Cadillac for "just in case" as long as it runs right; the main thing is I ( I mean *he*) wouldn't want to spend $2,000.00 for a $700.00 rifle.
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I like the looks of the loopy handle top dealiebobber combined with the Police-lookin' shoulder thingy and that tall triangle job on the barrel but I see more expensive ones don't have that handle-top thingy so .... maybe there's a benefit to not having the handle thingy like adding a scope there ...
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Where have I heard "You have to pass it to know what's in it"
AR rifles are kinda like:
You have to buy it to know what you want and learn it and what all the accessories do
(Understandable; Fishing Kayaks are the same way, start with a $400 kayak, later you get a $3,000 one and spend another $2,000 accessorizing it)

It would be good to study about ARs on sites and forums that specialize in them but ...
Seriously, I'll probably just get (at least) one *popularly used* gun "that will go bang" of each main popularly used caliber ... so no matter what (fuel) ammo is available I'll have the vehicle for it during times of another *fuel/spare parts" shortage.