if you know that's what it is, and that's what you intend to go to .... then you better not carry, in my layman's opinion.pcgizzmo wrote:In the OP's instance though he is specifically talking about attending a school sponsored event. He's going to directly to it and not walking his dog etc.....rm9792 wrote:I think RPB cleared it up pretty well. The rules arent absolute in the sense that you are here, you are guilty. You are walking your dog or eating lunch and you have no idea a school is there which is covered by knowingly. I take recklessly to mean waving it around or even firing it off (for whatever reason).
This thread is similar to the McDonalds thread. School is taking the kids to lunch so do you have to leave, I doubt it.
any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or
educational institution is being conducted[
To me the above words preclude him from carrying there if he knows its a school sponsored event and he is going there for the sole purpose of attending that event.
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- Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:03 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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- Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:35 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Re: Concealed Carry Question
intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly
Though I'm unclear how mens rea applies if you didn't know, but were reckless unless it places a duty upon you to learn who the ball teams are even though you went to jog or swim.
Though I'm unclear how mens rea applies if you didn't know, but were reckless unless it places a duty upon you to learn who the ball teams are even though you went to jog or swim.
- Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:24 am
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Re: Concealed Carry Question
If I went to a city park where I can carry and 2 teams playing baseball over there on the ball field, how am I to know if they are school teams or little league or just random kids or 2 church groups? I'd assume school teams would be on school fields instead of city parks, must be church groups or something else.
If you know it's a forbidden school sporting event, I'd say you can't carry even though you normally could at that park.
Similar to, but not exactly, you may carry in government buildings and ignore unenforceable 30.06 signs, but not when a political meeting is in session and the same sign becomes enforceable, whether you know a meeting is occurring or not the sign changes "characteristics" becoming enforceable probably. ("intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly")
How far the "grounds" extend from the ball field, I don't know if that's the entire city park, the stadium and it's seating area, or just what.
That's my layman's guess.
If you know it's a forbidden school sporting event, I'd say you can't carry even though you normally could at that park.
Similar to, but not exactly, you may carry in government buildings and ignore unenforceable 30.06 signs, but not when a political meeting is in session and the same sign becomes enforceable, whether you know a meeting is occurring or not the sign changes "characteristics" becoming enforceable probably. ("intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly")
How far the "grounds" extend from the ball field, I don't know if that's the entire city park, the stadium and it's seating area, or just what.
That's my layman's guess.