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RiverCity.45 wrote:I seriously doubt that people who don't have a CHL think "gun" when they see a fanny pack. Just because you do doesn't mean anyone else does. Now, other CHL carriers might, but most of the population doesn't fall in that category.

Relax. It matters not what others think is in your fanny pack. They are more likely to have thoughts about the fashion faux pas a fanny pack represents. Unless they are criminals, who will likely assume there is money or valuables inside.

When most people see one they probably think TOURIST !!!

Right2Carry wrote:

Divided Attention wrote:OK, here is my dumb question to throw in the mix. In a gun shop, Joe Counterman says "So do you have your CHL?" I answer "yes sir" to which he asks "What do you carry". Is this intentionally failing to conceal - not showing, just telling?

SO MANY RULES AND INTERPRETATIONS! Sometimes my head hurts

IMHO...asking what you carry is different than asking if you are carrying!

carefully choose who you talk to about it and where those conversations take place. Talking about your concealed gun carelessly can tempt some folks who may not be your best friends to watch you more closely and an accidental exposure which might have gone unnoticed before may be observed and used to cause you grief. This doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen.

True story:
I was at a County Tax Assessor/Collector's office, not in a Courthouse,
I was legal there.
They had a sign "No guns allowed except Law Enforcement Officers, or we will Prosecute to the Fullest Extent of the Law"
A person there knows me and ask what I carry, .. I said a Glock
THEN one lady who overheard I didn't know said "ARE YOU CARRYING NOW?"
I replied, "that would be in violation of your sign." (I didn't need to inform anyone it was unenforceable... for more than one reason)
Me and the person who knows me that works there (also a CHL... possibly the person who put up the sign) both smiled as I paid my taxes and left.

Since then, I sometimes keep a spare gun in the car, so I can truthfully reply "I left my gun in the car"

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... ightType=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
SUBCHAPTER H. LICENSE TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN
Sec. 411.171. DEFINITIONS. In this subchapter:
(3) "Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence of which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable person.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... ightType=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

bobcat50 wrote:I know what the law states about your weapon being "concealed", and "discearnable" but is it against the law if someone suspects or has general knowledge that you carry?

For example I use a fanny pack to carry because other methods I've tried "print" on my small body frame. But most people with common sense that see someone wearing a fanny pack often assume "that person must be carrying a gun". I know that's what I think. Does that constitute not being "concealed" if someone suspects you might be carrying?

My ex-wife's fanny pack was always full of Tampons ... I have no idea what other people suspected, but she didn't own a gun nor have a CHL.

At the Casinos I used to wear TWO fanny packs, it was nice all the separate compartments for nickles/dimes/quarters/half dollars/dollar tokens ... I never carried a gun in a Casino.... I dunno what people thought or suspected.

is it against the law if someone suspects or has general knowledge

Neither of those is in the language of the Statute.
"presence of which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable person"