If invalid/unenforceable signs bother you, you could write the City Attorney, CC: EACH member of City Council, City Manager/Mayor, Police Chief, City Secretary ... Often they all see they all got it and start discussing it as water cooler talk ... and it gets fixed.
I usually send my letters anonymously as a concerned taxpayer trying to save the city money .... we no longer have invalid signs in my city (County Tax Authority took theirs down too ) and several surrounding cities removed invalid/unenforceable signs and changed/repealed outdated ordinances.
At any rate, even if the sign remains ... it puts them on notice, in case of a "bad arrest" and as such could be used as evidence against the city that they knew or should have known ... in a federal civil suit for damages for civil rights violations/false arrest since a good faith arrest can't be made for something which is not illegal ... and they had been put on notice ....
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- Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:18 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Frisco Library/City Hall posted
- Replies: 19
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- Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:11 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Frisco Library/City Hall posted
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Re: Frisco Library/City Hall posted
Well, in Burnet: (At the airport, in a hanger?) (City hall was too small)C-dub wrote:I was with you up until this statement. Where else are governmental meetings held, but government property? However, I think the actual meeting room is the only thing off limits and not the entire building.Warhammer wrote: So even if they HAD gotten the 30.06 signs right, and even if it IS for a government meeting, the signs would be inapplicable because the property is owned or leased by the city.
My only question is what constitutes a "meeting?" Does two people getting together qualify as a meeting that cold prohibit a CHL from carrying? Supposing they would also properly post a 30.06 sign.
Council Chambers - 2402 S. Water (Hwy. 281 South) in the Highland Lakes Squadron building.
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City Hall - 1001 Buchanan Drive, Suite 4 (Hwy. 29 West)
OK, it's still city property, but I just had to laugh.
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- Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:21 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Frisco Library/City Hall posted
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Re: Frisco Library/City Hall posted
hmmmm that's a real headscratcher
But personally, I'd rather see those than what Burnet has .... a sign simply saying "Municipal Offices" walk in and there's the "Utility Bill Payment" window, and while standing there getting a receipt for my utility bill, I find out later that Court is in session 2 doors down the hall, and all these "extra people" aren't waiting to pay bills. (Had just moved here; didn't even know there was a Court there, but apparently there are 4 Courts in various places in town, only 2 are with "Court" signs. (Only happened once, but now I don't carry there)
But personally, I'd rather see those than what Burnet has .... a sign simply saying "Municipal Offices" walk in and there's the "Utility Bill Payment" window, and while standing there getting a receipt for my utility bill, I find out later that Court is in session 2 doors down the hall, and all these "extra people" aren't waiting to pay bills. (Had just moved here; didn't even know there was a Court there, but apparently there are 4 Courts in various places in town, only 2 are with "Court" signs. (Only happened once, but now I don't carry there)
- Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:57 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Frisco Library/City Hall posted
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Re: Frisco Library/City Hall posted
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Sign or no sign, it's a true statement.
Texas Penal Code 46.035 section C
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(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a governmental entity.
So, you can't carry there at the meetin's
If, however, you aren't AT the meetin', nor attending it ... but elsewhere in the building (say if City Council is in Council Chambers, and you are not ...)
However, are any OFFICES UTILIZED BY the municipal court in one of those buildings? Cashier.Secretary/Clerk etc etc?
Old court cases/records boxed up stored in an office UTILIZED BY a Court for Storage ??????
46.03 (3) on the premises of any government court or offices utilized by the court, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the court;
I'd think that the Library should probably be OK if they don't meet there.
City Hall, I'd have to visit or know more about to form my layman's opinion.
Sign or no sign, it's a true statement.
Texas Penal Code 46.035 section C
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/d ... /PE.46.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a governmental entity.
So, you can't carry there at the meetin's
If, however, you aren't AT the meetin', nor attending it ... but elsewhere in the building (say if City Council is in Council Chambers, and you are not ...)
However, are any OFFICES UTILIZED BY the municipal court in one of those buildings? Cashier.Secretary/Clerk etc etc?
Old court cases/records boxed up stored in an office UTILIZED BY a Court for Storage ??????
46.03 (3) on the premises of any government court or offices utilized by the court, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the court;
I'd think that the Library should probably be OK if they don't meet there.
City Hall, I'd have to visit or know more about to form my layman's opinion.