With the way the computer runs these motors these days you can change just about everything with a hand held within seconds. Most hand helds will tie themselves to your VIN and you won't be able to use them on anything, but they are fun to play with and see what you get, heck on an automatic you can even adjust the shift points.PUCKER wrote:Cool, thank you for the replies regarding tuning. In my mind I was thinking that the tuning discussion was by having it tuned by a shop on the dyno and I wondered what all was being tweaked.
I've never really put much "faith" into the handheld tuners/chips with a naturally aspirated gas engine. Back when I dragraced, years ago, I tried a chip on my '89 5.0 and I noticed no noticeable gains on it (ie - ET's were still the same at the track). My only positive experience with a hand-held tuner was with my '01 Ford Excursion 7.3 Diesel 4x4, which is a turbo...I had the Superchips Tuner....WOW, talk about a difference! That thing drove like a BEAST! I've since heard, but not yet experienced, that the handheld tuners for the new generation of naturally aspirated performance gas engines does help. Just wondered how much. I tell you, I'd like to defeat the 137 mph top-end limiter on my wife's G8 GT, that's for sure!
The best tweak/tune I made to my old 5.0 was the high pressure/flow fuel pump (155liter/hr from what I recall?) and the fuel pressure (adjustable fuel pressure regulator with gauge). I went from running 7.70's to 7.20's in the 1/8 mile just be giving it enough fuel, granted, this was on a very mild NOS setup but it just was starving for fuel. The 60 foot times were essentially the same but more fuel made a huge difference after that!
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- Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:40 pm
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- Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:47 am
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That's very possible, I hadn't heard that yet but I'm sure they did tune it to death. My thinking (and it's not even worth $0.02) but they probably also tuned it for fuel mileage and using 87 octane. If you change your fuel up, change up the injectors, throttle body etc a tune would probably help.Purplehood wrote:I got the impression from the media, for what thats worth, that the 5.0 engine had been tuned-to-death prior to release and they had to resort to breathing mods to bring the HPs up to 412. How can dyno-tuning increase it?budroux2w wrote:Oh ok gotcha. This will vary depending on who does the tune and if you get it through a hand held tuner or get a dyno tune. If I were to get the 5.0 I would get a hand held tuner like the SCT or something similar as you can load up different tunes, data log, etc. These are around $375. The tunes will change how your car handles, i.e. air to fuel ratios that are controled by the car's computer.
I'm not sure how much the dyno tunes run, but again that depends on the shop that does it.
PUCKER wrote:What I'm wanting to know is the cost of a tune (as in having a performance car tuner tweak/tune the car) and what exactly that entails?
PUCKER wrote:Help me out here, school me on what a current tune is, say, on one of the new 5.0 cars, what all does it entail, cost, etc.?
A 12.22 is AWESOME!!!!!! I remember breaking into the 12's in 1991 or so with my mildy tweaked '89 GT 5.0, for a street car, that was FAST back then!
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Gears and a tune.
Real life track report, with a stock car, regular driver shows the car running 12 second 1/4 mile in mid 90 degree temp.
http://www.usamustangs.com/forum/showth ... post171325" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Forgive me if that is a silly question.
It's very believeable that they tuned it to death but i'm sure there's something that can be squeeked out LOL.
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:35 am
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haha i hear that! we bought my wife's used and it already had upgraded exhaust and cold air intake so I was able to scratch those off of the list. We added some under drive pullies, reverse glow gages and had to replace the intake manifold so when we did figured why not put in a higher quality thermostat and performance spark plugs. I'm in the process of dreaming up getting some headers, having the forward cats cut off and possibly some 4.10 gears.TLynnHughes wrote:budroux2w wrote: I better look into a second job.![]()
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After all that.... the 2011 shouldn't embarass us too badly at the track... but we'd still be watching that rear bumper getting smaller
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- Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:21 am
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Oh ok gotcha. This will vary depending on who does the tune and if you get it through a hand held tuner or get a dyno tune. If I were to get the 5.0 I would get a hand held tuner like the SCT or something similar as you can load up different tunes, data log, etc. These are around $375. The tunes will change how your car handles, i.e. air to fuel ratios that are controled by the car's computer.
I'm not sure how much the dyno tunes run, but again that depends on the shop that does it.
I'm not sure how much the dyno tunes run, but again that depends on the shop that does it.
PUCKER wrote:What I'm wanting to know is the cost of a tune (as in having a performance car tuner tweak/tune the car) and what exactly that entails?
PUCKER wrote:Help me out here, school me on what a current tune is, say, on one of the new 5.0 cars, what all does it entail, cost, etc.?
A 12.22 is AWESOME!!!!!! I remember breaking into the 12's in 1991 or so with my mildy tweaked '89 GT 5.0, for a street car, that was FAST back then!
budroux2w wrote: Gears and a tune.
Real life track report, with a stock car, regular driver shows the car running 12 second 1/4 mile in mid 90 degree temp.
http://www.usamustangs.com/forum/showth ... post171325" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:53 am
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Standard equipment would be 3.15 gears for an auto and 3.31 for manual with options to go 3.55 or 3.73.
Other than jacking up the car and looking into the gear box... not real sure how to tell, but could probably find out.
I just did a quick search through the local ford dealer's website and it's looking like they are pricing them out at about $30k.... I might have to test drive one this weekend...
Other than jacking up the car and looking into the gear box... not real sure how to tell, but could probably find out.
I just did a quick search through the local ford dealer's website and it's looking like they are pricing them out at about $30k.... I might have to test drive one this weekend...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:36 am
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The more I hear about the 5.0 the more impressed I am, just have too much invested in the 03 to let it go lolTLynnHughes wrote:This particular car already came with 3.73 gears so that part was taken care of. One of the dealers actually showed us this particular video...pretty impressive!budroux2w wrote:Gears and a tune.TLynnHughes wrote:I completely agree! I haven't had the pleasure of making a pass down the local dragstrip. Maybe one day.Definitely thinking about some add ons to the new toy, but can't think of what I want first. It already has most everything that one would "normally" start with.
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Real life track report, with a stock car, regular driver shows the car running 12 second 1/4 mile in mid 90 degree temp.
http://www.usamustangs.com/forum/showth ... post171325" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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And Happy birthday
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- Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:02 am
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Gears and a tune.TLynnHughes wrote:I completely agree! I haven't had the pleasure of making a pass down the local dragstrip. Maybe one day.Definitely thinking about some add ons to the new toy, but can't think of what I want first. It already has most everything that one would "normally" start with.
T.
Real life track report, with a stock car, regular driver shows the car running 12 second 1/4 mile in mid 90 degree temp.
http://www.usamustangs.com/forum/showth ... post171325" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:17 pm
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I have seen those and I agree they are pretty amazing!TLynnHughes wrote:I dunno.....have you seen the new Ford Raptor Trucks. Those look pretty amazing!budroux2w wrote:I've been die hard Ford since getting my first F150, then a 2nd F150, and after hanging out with a mustang club, my wife now has an 03 GT with mild bolt-ons. I'm needing a new truck soon and the 2010 F150s are sharp... then again, I can just keep the truck running just good enough to take the boat to the lake and get a 5.0 shelby
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- Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:56 pm
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I've been die hard Ford since getting my first F150, then a 2nd F150, and after hanging out with a mustang club, my wife now has an 03 GT with mild bolt-ons. I'm needing a new truck soon and the 2010 F150s are sharp... then again, I can just keep the truck running just good enough to take the boat to the lake and get a 5.0 shelby ![drool :drool:](./images/smilies/drool5.gif)
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- Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:52 pm
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Making me jealous now!williamkevin wrote: A little quieter at idle than my 06 GT, but no less "growley" or menacing sounding. It's actually very soothing to listen to at idle, but definitely will get your attention when you step on it. No need for an exhaust upgrade on this one. The 3.73 rear end gearing just launches this car off the line, but hitting second gear is an experience one cannot put into words. It startled me the first time we got on it. The front end lifted up a bit and I swear to you that it felt just like the pony "reared-up" on her hind legs!!
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- Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:21 am
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Very nice! I've been pondering getting the 5.0 to have next to my wife's 03 GT... what is the exhaust tone like on it?