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by denwego
Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:17 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Majestic Theater San Antonio--Posted?
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Re: Majestic Theater San Antonio--Posted?

Keith B wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:They are saying that the zoo makes over 51% of its money from alcohol? If so they must sell a lot of booze.
No. They are saying that the Cameron Park Zoological and Botanical Society, who holds the liquor license, makes more than 51% of their revenue from the sale of alcohol at their functions. The revenue amount is based on the holder of the liquor license.

A couple of other examples are the Kimbell Art Museum in Fort Worth. The vendor who holds the license makes more than 51% of their revenue from sale of alcohol for on-premise consumption. The TABC has the whole museum as the defined 'premises', so that makes the whole place off limits per TABC.

The same issue exists at a couple of bowling alley's where they have a lounge owned by someone else. That company only sells liquor, so they are off limits. Bass Performance Hall in Fort Worth is the same way.

That rule needs to be changed so these little 'shell' businesses can't make the whole place off-limits.
What's even worse is that while it's easy to look up Red/Blue status on the TABC website, it's like pulling teeth to find out what property is licensed or permitted, since the maps and plans submitted with an application aren't readily retrievable at all, as far as I know. It might be obvious in the case of a bar, but get something like the Ren Faire or the Waco Zoo... that's a nightmare for compliance.

And the zoo makes me think of something I hadn't ever noticed before: let's say something like the Waco Zoo is licensed, actually encompasses the whole property, and is 51%. The Waco Zoo is more or less entirely outdoors, composed of footpaths and the like; §46.035 defines "premises" as "a building or a portion of a building", so... a genuinely Red location that's entirely outdoors should be technically OK to carry with a LTC, eh? Felony violations are a hell of a razor's edge, but that's the plain language as I read it...

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