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Is signing a form that claims it's signing under penalty of purgery, the same as signing "under oath"? Who swore him in?

Serious question, not trolling.

Jim Beaux wrote:It's ironic that our government of "we the people" is so focused on the minutiae of gun administration policy, and yet so lax on those who wantonly break our immigration laws.

This is draconian. Thugs wont do the paper work.

The anti's are breaking the bundle one twig at a time. It wont be long before the gov morphs this into a way to nail us for not using proper punctuation when buying our spouse or children guns.

Heck, It won't be long before they regulate what kind of light bulbs we use... Oh, wait...
(Sorry for the thread drift.)

As I recall, the legislature only passed laws requiring that all buyers from firearms businesses must be able to pass a NICS background check. It is reasonable for BATFE to develop a form for the buyer to enter personal information in order to determine who he is for the purposes of the check. However, BATFE designed a form requiring more information than was required. Such as the questionnaire, and more importantly (IMO) the make, model and serial number of the firearm being purchased. That information is not required in order to pass the check, should not be required (again IMO), to purchase a firearm. There is also no legislative basis for requiring information about multiple purchases, etc.

TomsTXCHL wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote: The really sobering portion of that decision is the court's finding of materiality in the false statement. This may give pause to folks who fib a little on Question 11(e).

11(e). Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

Hmmm... Especially if that includes caffein or nicotine. Note that it's "unlawful user of, OR addicted to"

Can't include caffeine or nicotine, which afaik are not "controlled substances".

This also reads to me like prescribed (medical) marjuana would still mean "no".

I'm not sure the "controlled substance" clause applies to the prior list of specific items. And I don't imagine that Texas would recognize the authority of a medical mj card.

Jumping Frog wrote: The really sobering portion of that decision is the court's finding of materiality in the false statement. This may give pause to folks who fib a little on Question 11(e).

11(e). Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

Hmmm... Especially if that includes caffein or nicotine. Note that it's "unlawful user of, OR addicted to"

Cjwglock19 wrote:Ok, my dad has been looking to purchase a new pistol. He has had a few things happen and has held off, I have considered purchasing as a gift for his upcoming birthday. If I do this, is there a legal transaction I must do, or do I just gift it to him with all receipts?? I have never purchased a gun as a gift so I want to be sure.

If I were going to "gift" somebody a firearm, I would purchase a gift-card for the store with the gun, for the amount of the gun (and tax), and give the gift card. Then the recipient can fill out all the paperwork and pay for his gun with your gift card.

I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advise. But that's how I'd do it.

cb1000rider wrote:That's the straw purchase distinction, absolutely.
There is no "gift" option on Form 4473.

So, how much time (or what other actions) must expire between the time that you buy the gun, and the time when you can sell it to someone else as a private transaction?

Writing for the majority, Justice Elena Kagan said the federal government's elaborate system of background checks and record-keeping requirements help law enforcement investigate crimes by tracing guns to their buyers. Those provisions would mean little, she said, if a would-be gun buyer could evade them by simply getting another person to buy the gun and fill out the paperwork.

Nope, no gun registry shenanigans going on thru NICS there... Not a smidgeon!