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by sjfcontrol
Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:17 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows it
Replies: 39
Views: 6452

Re: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows

rotor wrote:Harumph! My wife recently went through cataract surgery. EVERY time she went in to an appointment, the first question out of their mouth was always "Do you smoke?" One of the assistants there volunteered that the question "pops up" on the screen first thing when they look up a patient's record. Well, that got me curious, and I started asking what happens to that information. Their answer was that it "just went into the system". I tried to get them to answer if it got reported somewhere (like to the government), but nobody seemed to know -- or would admit to knowing.

Doctor can charge for counseling about smoking cessation
The eye surgeon can? I don't think it had anything to do with that.
by sjfcontrol
Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:50 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows it
Replies: 39
Views: 6452

Re: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows

chasfm11 wrote: I've been watching the credit card payment reports and then saw this one this morning.
http://freebeacon.com/government-seekin ... h-records/
I don't need much of a tin foil hat to have a bad feeling about that one. As one who is currently covered by Medicare, I'm part of the pool.
The “meaningful use” program already requires doctors and hospitals to report the demographics of a patient and if he smokes to qualify for its first step. The second stage, planned for 2014, will require recording a patient’s family health history.

The National Academy of Sciences will make recommendations for adding social and behavioral data for stage three, which will be unveiled in 2016.
Harumph! My wife recently went through cataract surgery. EVERY time she went in to an appointment, the first question out of their mouth was always "Do you smoke?" One of the assistants there volunteered that the question "pops up" on the screen first thing when they look up a patient's record. Well, that got me curious, and I started asking what happens to that information. Their answer was that it "just went into the system". I tried to get them to answer if it got reported somewhere (like to the government), but nobody seemed to know -- or would admit to knowing.
by sjfcontrol
Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:04 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows it
Replies: 39
Views: 6452

Re: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows

chasfm11 wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
AndyC wrote:
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau officials are seeking to monitor four out of every five U.S. consumer credit card transactions this year — up to 42 billion transactions – through a controversial data-mining program, according to documents obtained by the Washington Examiner.
Uh huh. Why?
'cause they can?

Better question is: "Monitor for what?"
For political purposes. This is not a partisan statement as I believe the use of governmental resources against political enemies is decades old. The current administration, however, seems to have taken it to a higher invasive and blatant level. The Nixon White House had an "enemies" list but I believe it was mostly limited to other politicians and high level opposing figures. Now, those lists include individual citizens like some of us on the forum. Through technology and the willingness to use it in this matter, the lists of enemies and actions against them are growing exponentially.

I predict that within two years, they will drop all pretext of using any of this to fight terrorism. It will be solely in place for Federal government enforcement purposes. The amassing of data for the Obamacare alone is breathtaking and if they force the physicians (by threatening withholding payments) to expand the data gathering into social areas as they are now beginning, it will get even worse.

The same forced compliance that we've seen in the EPA, etc will be used against each of us. If you don't answer the gun related questions your doctor asks, your healthcare will be affected. And by then, it won't matter which party wins the election. Once the bureaucracy is fully cranked up, it turns into its on perpetual motion machine.
Sooooo... George Orwell just had it 30 years too early?
by sjfcontrol
Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:25 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows it
Replies: 39
Views: 6452

Re: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows

mrvmax wrote:It all depends, when I run credit cards there is no description for the merchandise when I process the transaction. They have no idea what my customers are buying.
If its made payable to "Modern Defensive Measures", you can bet its red-flagged.
by sjfcontrol
Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:57 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows it
Replies: 39
Views: 6452

Re: Make gun related purchses by credit card? Then BO knows

AndyC wrote:
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau officials are seeking to monitor four out of every five U.S. consumer credit card transactions this year — up to 42 billion transactions – through a controversial data-mining program, according to documents obtained by the Washington Examiner.
Uh huh. Why?
'cause they can?

Better question is: "Monitor for what?"

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