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by sjfcontrol
Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:24 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 50 States Secede

tallmike wrote: It's funny to me how studies and statistics almost always show exactly what you want them to show and rarely what would be considered the "truth" to an uninterested party.
76% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
by sjfcontrol
Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:16 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 50 States Secede

I would NEVER put any weight on anything that Rachael Madcow had to say.
by sjfcontrol
Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:45 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 50 States Secede

I thought I heard or read somewhere that as of this year, Texas actually collects more from Washington than it pays.
by sjfcontrol
Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:55 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 50 States Secede

dmurrey wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
dmurrey wrote:I signed the petition for Texas as well. I regret it though, it was totally stupid of me to send on my information to the white house expressing my displeasure. Does anyone know if there has been any talk of backlash or punishment against those who have signed petitions from the WH? I read something that said they may revoke your 2A rights if they believe you may support an armed insurrection against the fed, which some argue these petitions are ones support of violence against the gov. Though they says (peacefully) in them. Maybe I'm paranoid but I now fear men in black suits showing up at my door. Any word on this? :tiphat:
I've heard they're revoking security clearances, but I don't recall who said that or how credible I believed them to be.
I've heard that as well. Fortunately I don't have any security clearance. I suppose we will know soon enough when reports start coming in. :txflag:
You'll never hear any reports. People will simply vanish. Perhaps whole families... :mrgreen:
by sjfcontrol
Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:33 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 50 States Secede

In addition, Obama has flat-out stated that if he can't get the congress to pass the bills he wants, he'll go around them. And he has. He's ruling by Executive Order and by Regulation, rather than by Legislation. There doesn't appear to be any way to override that kind of activity.

Also note that he has instructed his Justice Department to simply ignore valid laws that he disagrees with.
by sjfcontrol
Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:25 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 50 States Secede

AEA wrote:They're gonna be busy! :biggrinjester:
Think of it as FBI job security. :mrgreen:
by sjfcontrol
Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:39 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 50 States Secede

canvasbck wrote:The Texas petition has now exceeded 100,000 supporters. :txflag:


The petition calling for exhile and deportation of everyone who signed the secession petitions is at 10,000. "rlol"
Maybe we should start a petition to deport Obama, and all the democrats in Congress. :mrgreen:
by sjfcontrol
Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:01 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 50 States Secede

RPB wrote: UPDATE
Apparently 50 States have petitions to secede .., but if they all did, from whom would they?

:headscratch :confused5 :biggrinjester:



White House ‘secede’ petitions reach 675,000 signatures, 50-state participation
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/14/white ... icipation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From D.C., of course! Leaving it a very small area surrounded by angry X-states. :smilelol5:
by sjfcontrol
Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:44 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 47 States Secede

Dueling petitions! :biggrinjester:
by sjfcontrol
Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:04 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 47 States Secede

RPB wrote:Houston Chronicle
Texas secession: Fact and fiction
Tuesday, November 13, 2012
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/11 ... d-fiction/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

a point I had forgotten probably not feasible but it would be interesting if we had 10 Senators ...
Fact or fiction: Texas is permitted to divide itself into five states.

FACT.

The 1845 Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas affirms Texas’ right to divide itself into five states if it chooses. Here’s the relevant passage, written in 19th century legalese:

“New States, of convenient size, not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas, and having sufficient population, may hereafter, by the consent of the said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the federal constitution.”

Texas has never tested the treaty of annexation. But it is possible that ten senators could, at some point, represent the current territory of Texas. How ’bout East Texas, West Texas, Central Texas, South Texas and North Texas?
10 Senators ... I like that better than just two ... 10 out of 100?
10% of the US Senate controlled by Texans ... hmmm
I would assume that it would amount to an additional 8 (with the two we already have). So it would be 10 out of 108, a bit less than 10%.
by sjfcontrol
Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:04 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 15 States Secede

WBAP is reporting that 25K signatures were met on the Texas petition as of 2:00PM this afternoon. Reportedly that means the Obama admin MUST consider the petition.
by sjfcontrol
Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:25 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
Views: 26394

Re: 15 States Secede

VMI77 wrote:
gdanaher wrote:Perhaps all those folks who find themselves dissatisfied with the election results should consider how they might adjust their party's political and social agendas to better dovetail with the views of the majority of the nation's population. It was all just fine and good when the nation was composed of angry old white men, but the party hasn't changed while everything else has. And while they are at it, they might want to give all their senatorial candidates a test or review session on female reproductive physiology. If they think they can win in the future and not make changes, they are just as foolish as those who think that seceding is a viable option.

Wow, talk about totally missing the point: this "angry old white man" REJECTS "the change." Your advice is the political equivalent of telling a rape victim that if she can't fight it she might as well relax and enjoy it. I'm not going to "adjust" my political and social agendas to appease the mob or merely surrender to collectivism out of convenience or some misplaced conception of inevitability. The current situation is not some accidental byproduct of social development, it's an engineered condition brought about by decades of collectivist control of the school system and MSM. I'm certainly not going to stop opposing this disastrous, immoral, and unnatural cabal of ideologues, opportunists, and free-loaders when things like homeschooling and the internet are arising in opposition to this treacherous attack on the fundamental principles that made the United States of America the greatest experiment in government and the greatest country in the world.
Seems to me that anybody willing to change their principles in order to win an election, has lost anyway.

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