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speedsix wrote:...it's usually those who've served beneath the flag who appreciate and understand the honor due her the best...

Usually, perhaps, but not exclusively.

speedsix wrote:...what we need are true American Patriots...who love that flag, the country, and are willing to forget party lines to do what it takes to heal Her...but I'm not holding my breath...we're limited to choosing the least harmful...and hoping that Old Glory flies long enough for us to get to the point where patriots can WIN elections again...

To do that, we'd have to break the "What can my Government do for ME!" attitude. The whole theory behind the Democratic party is: "If we can hook 'em by making them dependent upon the Government, then they'll vote for us forever!" As we are now at the tipping point where more people are receiving from the Government than are paying in, that is going to be very difficult to do.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I'm less upset by the flag implications than I am disgusted by the implications of Obama's ego, which is so powerful that it demands to be worshipped on a flag. I would not be the least bit surprised if his face turned up on our currency.

TAM -- No argument regarding Obama's ego -- what other president would proclaim "We can't wait", then proceed to bypass congress and the constitution? However, in this case, is there any indication that the flag was designed or authorized by Obama himself? I suspect it's all the brainchild of overzealous democrats.

Lambda Force wrote:If you want to burn the Obama flag, you can use these. http://www.dx.com/p/23357" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Economical and much of to collect value gift for smokers

hi-power wrote:The flag in the OP looks like it was made by a screen printing company so it probably isn't a standard US flag with a picture attached to it: http://www.ruffinflagcompany.net/produc ... tid=839304

On the lighter side...one guy is selling these Obominable things in lots of 24, 72 and 144 on eBay and each of his numerous items has 0 bids.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/mylesmaylyn/m.h ... 4340.l2562

"Obominable" -- I like it! -- But not the flags!

pbwalker wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

pbwalker wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:This was a flag. It was flying underneath an unmodified US flag, on a pole outside a home. It was not an image of a flag. And it doesn't matter if it was ever a complete flag that had been modified, or was made as shown.

Do you have proof that this was ever an American flag?

Also, you say that "it doesn't matter if it was ever a complete flag that had been modified, or was made as shown."

Actually it does.

Reference?

Before I answer, just so I understand your post, please expound upon the statement that ""it doesn't matter if it was ever a complete flag that had been modified, or was made as shown." Maybe I misunderstood.

You disagreed with me saying that the Obama flag was not an American flag, saying "By that logic, anything you can possibly do to a flag is perfectly OK, since once you desecrate it, it's no longer an American Flag."

I am saying that if it was never an American flag (which you contend, at one point, it was...reference for that?) then how am I desecrating the American flag. It does matter if it was an American flag at one point, but if it was not, then it's moot. That's why I said it does matter.

Or are you saying that any flag with red and white stripes, and a blue upper left corner is an American flag by default, and it subject to our flag code?

Hmm, I guess it's kinda like pornography -- you may not know how to define it, but you know it when you see it.

To me it doesn't matter if its an "official" American Flag that's been modified, or an originally produced flag that is intended to look like a modified American Flag. I would think it would also need to actually be a flag, not an image, or just some product that contains red and white stripes and blue star fields -- such as patriotic bunting. (Although some have had issues with shirts or T's that appear to be made from flags.)

It seemed to me that your argument that Obama flag wasn't an American Flag, was to imply that the Obama flag was not something to be concerned about because it wasn't a real American Flag. Well, of course it's not an "official" American Flag, because that would contain the star field, not a picture of Obama. But if perverting the design of the "Official" flag as they did is OK, then any modification of the flag is OK. How about a flag with the star field replaced with a picture of Mickey Mouse flying at Disney World, or one containing a picture of Tony the Tiger at Kellogg's Headquarters? Perhaps Sea World could come up with a flag with dolphins leaping out of the red stripes? Any of these would obviously NOT be official US Flags, nor would they (most likely) be manufactured from Official Flags. Nevertheless, I personally would find any of those flags offensive as well.

pbwalker wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:This was a flag. It was flying underneath an unmodified US flag, on a pole outside a home. It was not an image of a flag. And it doesn't matter if it was ever a complete flag that had been modified, or was made as shown.

Do you have proof that this was ever an American flag?

Also, you say that "it doesn't matter if it was ever a complete flag that had been modified, or was made as shown."

Actually it does.

Reference?

This was a flag. It was flying underneath an unmodified US flag, on a pole outside a home. It was not an image of a flag. And it doesn't matter if it was ever a complete flag that had been modified, or was made as shown.

pbwalker wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:There is a definite difference between some other countries' flag that may have similar elements to ours, and modifying OUR flag to replace one of it's elements with a picture of the president. ANY president.
(I note that the Malaysian flag has one extra white stripe, in addition to the modified star field. Also, if the aspect ratio looks odd.)

I guess I am doing a poor job in making my point. All I am basically saying is that the Obama flag is as much an American flag as the Malaysian flag. Meaning, neither are American flags. Just like the LGBT rainbow flag with the stars is not the American flag.

No, I got your point. By that logic, anything you can possibly do to a flag is perfectly OK, since once you desecrate it, it's no longer an American Flag.
Might as well argue that its just a piece of cloth, not worthy of the fuss.
I do not agree.

pbwalker wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:I think there are exceptions with conditions. President signing a flag. It becomes more of a trophy than something that is going to be flown everyday. Such as an American flag flown in Iraq on an American vehicle during a firefight. The flag was signed by everyone there and now hangs on a wall in a revered place.

Exactly...just as this flag is a "trophy" for all the Libs and other MaObama lovers.

I guess I just don't understand the fuss. It's not an American Flag. It's as much an American Flag as the Malaysian Flag.

There is a definite difference between some other countries' flag that may have similar elements to ours, and modifying OUR flag to replace one of it's elements with a picture of the president. ANY president.
(I note that the Malaysian flag has one extra white stripe, in addition to the modified star field. Also, if the aspect ratio looks odd.)

AEA wrote:Next it will be 50 foot banners of the "Dummer in Chief" image hanging from buildings

Oh.....and pictures of him in every household in the living rooms!

Then, the Statues at major intersections across the Nation will be erected!

Then China will invade, and tear them all down!

Veterans outraged over American Flag with Obama Image -- Florida

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Veterans in Lake County, Fla., are incensed that local Democrats hoisted an American flag with President Obama’s image in place of the traditional stars over their headquarters. The veterans denounced the modified banner as “a disgrace,” reports Fox News.


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