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by sjfcontrol
Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:46 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Can You Shoot to Protect Property in TEXAS
Replies: 120
Views: 58077

Re: Can You Shoot to Protect Property in TEXAS

Kythas wrote:What I haven't seen in this discussion is the emphasis on " theft during the nighttime":
§ 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or
recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to
protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
To me, this makes it pretty clear that deadly force to prevent a theft or criminal mischief is only legal at night, which is defined in Texas law as 30 minutes after sunset to 30 minutes before sunrise.

So the answer to the OP's original question is "Yes, but only at night".

If this has, in fact, been mentioned in this thread then I missed it and I apologize.
The OP originally mentioned burglary, which is different than simple theft. There is no nighttime requirement for burglary.
by sjfcontrol
Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:16 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Can You Shoot to Protect Property in TEXAS
Replies: 120
Views: 58077

Re: Can You Shoot to Protect Property in TEXAS

Just a thought...

What about something dealing with the flow of water onto or through a property?

Especially if it endangered crops or livestock.
by sjfcontrol
Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:59 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Can You Shoot to Protect Property in TEXAS
Replies: 120
Views: 58077

Re: Can You Shoot to Protect Property in TEXAS

Humanphibian wrote:this is the part that always raised my brow :

§ 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or
recovered by any other means
; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to
protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.


so....basically, if someone was toilet papering your home........????????
I guess so -- If you can defend the statement I highlighted in blue. Can you come up with some other way to stop the mischief?

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