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TheBrit wrote:
marksiwel wrote:What you dont want the government to have your DNA and Fingerprints on file? Now can I see your papers citizen?
Thats funny. As part of my US citizenship application I had to undergo a background check and then biometric collection.
Here is the kicker, I'm a now a US citizen, but apparently a second rate US citizen. The FBI holds a file on me, although I have never been convicted of a crime. My fingerprints, iris scan, and picture are in a government held database even though I am not a threat to the government and willingly pledged my allegiance to this great country. One would have imagined after I was accepted as a US citizen I would have the same rights as my fellow countrymen, my file deleted. Most of us here are of immigrant decent, I was just a few hundreds years later than most.
Is Freedom Free? No.
Don't get me wrong I love being a US citizen, and knowingly accepted I would be indexed and filed. I'm just saying that sometimes we have to do things we don't want to do in order to see the bigger picture. Maybe I'll live long enough to see a change in immigration law were a US citizen is just that. When "WE THE PEOPLE" applies to all of us. I suspect I won't. I've seen a government turn against its people, take their guns, their liberty, their freedom. Orwellian indeed!

God Bless America, and her Constitution that keeps us the worlds freest nation! Lets not lose sight of what we have here.

On a side note - If it was ever discovered a clerical error had been made on my 4 year long application process, say for example a clerk entered the wrong date on a form, I could be denaturalized at any time. Even if I lived here for 60 years or more. Kinda scary....

I have a friend who got kicked out (he later came back) because they were too lazy to file his Visa renewal. Good times

marksiwel

Big Tuna wrote:
57Coastie wrote:I suspect that we are back into the old question of, "Do you want to stand on your principles, or do you want a job?" Like it or not, there are an awful lot of folks out there today who need a job, at the same time as the cost of health insurance has skyrocketed to the point where more employers feel obliged to look into the hidden costs to his business which may be caused by a new employee. Right or wrong, I do believe that as a practical matter we can expect this.
By that reasoning, a company could discriminate against women because pregnancy and child birth is expensive. Not just the medical costs, but potential time off work.

Um...they allready do that. Its just not official. Basically when the wife finishes law school she will have to go out of her way to mention that I am going to be a stay at home dad, so that she wont be discriminated against.
Also, compared to the rest of the Western World, Maternity leave in the US is a joke.

marksiwel

http://www.ww.parentdish.com/2010/02/05 ... babys-dna/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The government may have your baby's DNA on file.

Newborns in the United States are regularly screened for various genetic diseases. These tests are mandated by the federal government.

As a result, children's DNA samples are often stored -- sometimes indefinitely.

Some parents are creeped out by the Orwellian image of the government keeping babies' DNA without their parents' knowledge or consent and they're filing lawsuits. Members of the Texas Legislature felt the same chill down their spines last year.
They passed a law that allows doctors in the state to keep and use the DNA samples for research, but requires parents be informed. The law also gives parents the option of having their children's leftover blood samples destroyed after screening.

What you dont want the government to have your DNA and Fingerprints on file? Now can I see your papers citizen?

marksiwel

Maybe your Boss needs a kidney, and he plans on taking yours!

marksiwel

The Annoyed Man wrote: The proper response is, "let me see yours... THEN I'll show you mine."

You always were a sweet talker.

Drug testing, pffffffffft. Rarely have I seen a company test more than the one time you do it to be hired.
Now if they did random Pee tests, I could see the merits (almost)
Its not hard to pass a drug test, they do nothing to stop addicts from applying for jobs, they are faulty as all get out, and they are just there to "make people feel better"

As for medical records? What do they need them for? You going into space?
My guess is they are Dead Peasant Clauses
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/ins ... p64954.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Basically they get paid by the insurer if you die.

Or are you out sick alot? Maybe they want more than a note

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