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by VoiceofReason
Mon May 09, 2016 7:35 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 30.06 and Local Governments In Revolt
Replies: 30
Views: 7042

Re: 30.06 and Local Governments In Revolt

Soccerdad1995 wrote:
C-dub wrote:
Lynyrd wrote:
AJSully421 wrote:This. Any political subdivision who is found to be in violation will have each of its principal employees (the mayor and city council, city managers, county commissioners, library board members... any and all of them) shall be fined $10,000 each.
Easy now. I'm a city council member, and I should not be held responsible for the votes of others on the council.

:shock:

And for the record, we don't have any signs.
Hopefully, votes are recorded and it would be easy to determine which way each council member votes and assess penalties accordingly.
If I am a member of a group that commits a crime, and I know about the crime, and I choose to remain a member and not report the crime, then I am guilty, even if I personally thought the crime was a bad idea. Give City council members immunity from criminal liability if they vote against the illegal act, immediately notify the AG, and agree to testify against the leaders of the illegal plot.

Those shown to be responsible should be permanently disqualified from holding public office. I'm tired of criminals governing the rest of us.
This "I'm tired of criminals governing the rest of us."
by VoiceofReason
Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:15 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 30.06 and Local Governments In Revolt
Replies: 30
Views: 7042

Re: 30.06 and Local Governments In Revolt

Lynyrd wrote:
AJSully421 wrote:This. Any political subdivision who is found to be in violation will have each of its principal employees (the mayor and city council, city managers, county commissioners, library board members... any and all of them) shall be fined $10,000 each.
Easy now. I'm a city council member, and I should not be held responsible for the votes of others on the council.

:shock:

And for the record, we don't have any signs.
I am sure it could be tailored to make it fair. Fine whoever signs it in to law, and or whoever submitted it.

Something needs to be done to clearly demonstrate that government officials are not above the law.
by VoiceofReason
Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:39 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 30.06 and Local Governments In Revolt
Replies: 30
Views: 7042

Re: 30.06 and Local Governments In Revolt

AJSully421 wrote:
Vol Texan wrote:
Abraham wrote:mojo84,

I get the impression the various governmental law breakers aren't in the slightest concerned about going to court.

Perhaps, they think such cases will drag out for so long, the law will get changed in their favor, so they're going to do whatever...maybe...
Abraham,

I have to agree with you here. Perhaps, instead of penalties paid by the offending governing agency to another government agency, it could be changed such that the individuals responsible for making the decision to place the sign could be held personally financially responsible for that decision. That might make them less willing to stick their neck out for the cause.

Or, perhaps instead of the AG filing suit and collecting the money for the state, it could be made such that individual citizens could file personal suits and get compensated by the offending local government. That wouldn't sent to fight these cases to move forward rather quickly, I bet.

Perhaps a combination of both above would be best of all.
This. Any political subdivision who is found to be in violation will have each of its principal employees (the mayor and city council, city managers, county commissioners, library board members... any and all of them) shall be fined $10,000 each. If the fine is not paid within 30 days of being levied, the individual shall be removed from office and prohibited from ever seeking any elected or appointed government office in Texas.

Either take down the signs, or resign before you are found to be in violation.

Right here in our little town of Benbrook, they had a city council meeting to remove a line in the city ordinances that prohibited carrying firearms in city parks. One member asked if they could just ignore the state and pay the penalty, and that it would be a small price to pay to keep guns out of the parks... It is more widespread that most of us know.

Screw these tyrants at every level.
Why is Florida so far ahead of us on these issues?

"The 2014 Florida Statutes 790.33 (3)PROHIBITIONS; PENALTIES.—
(c) If the court determines that a violation was knowing and willful, the court shall assess a civil fine of up to $5,000 against the elected or appointed local government official or officials or administrative agency head under whose jurisdiction the violation occurred.
(d) Except as required by applicable law, public funds may not be used to defend or reimburse the unlawful conduct of any person found to have knowingly and willfully violated this section."

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