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by VoiceofReason
Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:58 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Dallas County to begin gun-confiscation
Replies: 36
Views: 6104

Re: Dallas County to begin gun-confiscation

By the way, I notice the date of 2011 on the post.

Most recent incident
Date: Dec 18, 2014
Police say Celina Orellana, 24, died after her ex-boyfriend stabbed her multiple times.
Obviously men and children don’t count as this article is skewed toward women killed by men with guns.
Updated: 12/16/14. Figures include Dallas, Denton, Collin and Rockwall counties
39
2014 Dallas area domestic violence homicides
Women: 19
Men: 14
Children: 6
by VoiceofReason
Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:53 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Dallas County to begin gun-confiscation
Replies: 36
Views: 6104

Re: Dallas County to begin gun-confiscation

n5wd wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:So all they need to do is continue to redefine domestic abuse and then they can "legally" confiscate anyone's firearms.

Maybe they will soon use this against so-called domestic terrorists.

We are all just a redefinition away from total tyranny.
So, anygun (you don't mind me being that informal, do you), you're in favor of men who beat their wives (and historically, there are a far greater percentage of male domestic partner abusers, gay or straight, then there are female offenders), is that what you're telling us? You want these dispicable scum to have a ready gun at hand? How often have you beat your wife?

Never? Then, you're like most of us folk who've gone through life without laying a hand on our wife. And while there may be some one who file false reports, just to gain a advantage over someone else in a divorce, my personal experience with the victims has convinced me that society gives a lot of lip service to protecting legitimate victims while tending to screen out the ilegitimate reports. Ask a cop how well we can protect a wife that's being beaten by her ex. Ask one of the dispatchers who take a call from a victim, in progress, and ask her how long it takes for her to get officers to the call?

Everyone who's going to have their gun rights taken away goes before a judge before that happens. I believe in the system enough to think that, in this very limited and well-litigated instance, the law is a good one, and I'm glad Dallas County is doing something about this priblem.

It's simple -if you want to have a CHL later in life, don't beat your wife. If you do have guns and you beat your wife, your guns get given to a third party (if you read the article, that is one of the options for a domestic violence offender) or let the county hold on to them while the protective order is in place (usually, a PO is good for two years), or if you're convicted, the term is forever.

The vast majority of good, honest folk have nothing to worry about, cause they'll nnever put themselves in that position.
So here we are again with the liberal “blame the gun” simple minded solution.

Are you going to confiscate all knives, scissors and sharp things? Baseball bats, golf clubs and other blunt instruments? How is confiscating someone’s firearms going to stop them from beating their spouse? Are you going to make them wear cuffs and shackles twenty four hours a day?

I am so sick of “blame the man”, “blame the gun” that I could upchuck. I know this may sound crazy but leave the jerk. I can’t tell you how many times I have seen women go back to the man that knocks her around every weekend.

I am not a marriage councilor but I have been an LEO and we are married 46 years. Here is something I have noticed. When he knocks two of your teeth out, the magic’s gone. He doesn’t love you any more, if he ever did. The first time he hurts you get out. Find a shelter and start your life again. If you stay it will only get worse. If you stay you need to find out what’s wrong between your ears.

Confiscate the guns if it makes you feel better but don’t expect it to make any difference. You don’t need a CHL to get a gun. All you need is the money and desire.
by VoiceofReason
Wed May 06, 2015 11:17 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Dallas County to begin gun-confiscation
Replies: 36
Views: 6104

Re: Dallas County to begin gun-confiscation

Guns pose the most dangerous threat to domestic violence victims.
And soon stabbing and strangulation will pose the most dangerous threat to domestic violence victims.
The gun confiscation policy isn’t perfect.

While experts praised Dallas County for stepping up to enforce the law, they warned that threatening to take guns away from abusers could cause them to retaliate against victims. They recommended that judges set the shortest possible deadline for abusers to turn in their guns to minimize risk.
I will bet this triggers a rash of domestic violence whether the media reports it or not.

The answer is not to try to take away every instrument of violence but to lock up the perp or for the one being abused to leave the abuser. But again the liberals don’t know how to really fix the problem or it’s too much work.

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