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EEllis wrote:

VoiceofReason wrote:Just random thoughts.

“That prohibition does not amount to a breach of Keyes' rights under the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, Ford Elliott found, because it applies only to an "extremely small" class of citizens and has a solid public safety basis.”

So President Judge Emeritus Kate Ford Elliott believes the state can deny the Second Amendment rights of the U.S. Constitution if it “applies only to an "extremely small" class of citizens and has a solid public safety basis.”

I wonder if this precedent could be used to keep former service men/women with PTSD from owning guns.

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That small comment can really lead to some ugly ideas.

Already been tried. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -guns.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; If they get away with doing it to civilians what is to keep them from doing it to former service men/women with PTSD?

Just random thoughts.

“That prohibition does not amount to a breach of Keyes' rights under the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, Ford Elliott found, because it applies only to an "extremely small" class of citizens and has a solid public safety basis.”

So President Judge Emeritus Kate Ford Elliott believes the state can deny the Second Amendment rights of the U.S. Constitution if it “applies only to an "extremely small" class of citizens and has a solid public safety basis.”

I wonder if this precedent could be used to keep former service men/women with PTSD from owning guns.

More information https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 2I&cad=rja" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

EEllis wrote:

VoiceofReason wrote:This officers situation may be a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act or the rehabilitation act.

As a matter of fact the federal firearm law they are using may be in conflict with one or both laws.
I am not a lawyer but I have had considerable experience with both the Americans with Disabilities Act and the rehabilitation act.

One thing that I can see is "employers must keep all information concerning the medical condition or history of its applicants or employees, including information about psychiatric disability, confidential under the ADA."

This whole thing about a person being treated for depression for a couple of months, twenty years ago keeping him/her from owning a gun has me interested. Think I will do some more research on it.

He was involuntarily committed which is a court record and open the the public and has nothing to do with his working for the State Police. He wasn't "treated 20 years ago" He attempted suicide and was involuntarily committed. Mind you if he can work then he should get all his rights back but lets keep the story accurate.

If you will re-read my last sentence please note I said a person

“This whole thing about a person being treated for depression for a couple of months, twenty years ago keeping him/her from owning a gun has me interested. Think I will do some more research on it.”

I did not say “He”. In this sentence I was speaking in generalities to include anyone (past, present and future) that may unfairly be denied the right to own a firearm for this reason. I could have worded it differently to make it easier to understand.

powerboatr wrote:yes but the other side of the coin is he has been treated for suicidal ideations, attempts or thoughts and NOW is a peace officer carrying a deadly weapon....
does it bother anyone he could slip into the pre existing state and do a suicide with standby collateral damages(other dead people), maybe a traffic stop sends him over the edge...

I know from y time as a suicide prevention officer in the Navy......the ones whom profess these thoughts....are never cured, they still pop up and you never ever know when they push you over the limit
I would be scared to death if this guy pulled me over.
sorry, treatment or not he should not be a LEO.

I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist. I have only had a basic psychology class in college. I don’t know your training or qualifications but many mental health professionals understand that depression can be caused by events in a person’s life.

It is as much an imbalance in the chemistry of the brain as it is psychological and can be treated with medication and counseling on handling grief and other life crises. There are those people that experience it once or twice and there are those that deal with it their entire lives.

The following people have had clinical depression.

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Buzz Aldrin
Ludwig van Beethoven
Terry Bradshaw
Marlon Brando
Earl Campbell
Winston Churchill
Dick Clark
Calvin Coolidge
Diana, Princess of Wales
Charles Dickens
Patty Duke
Carrie Fisher, Princess Leia in Star Wars
Tipper Gore, after her son’s near fatal car accident in 1989
Ernest Hemingway
President Abraham Lincoln
Michelangelo
Isaac Newton
Marie Osmond
author J.K. Rowling after her first marriage broke down
Leo Tolstoy, author of “War and Peace
Vincent Van Gogh
Mike Wallace, 60 Minutes

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Charles Schulz, “Peanuts”
Richard Dreyfuss
Mark Twain
Teddy Roosevelt

This officers situation may be a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act or the rehabilitation act.

As a matter of fact the federal firearm law they are using may be in conflict with one or both laws.
I am not a lawyer but I have had considerable experience with both the Americans with Disabilities Act and the rehabilitation act.

One thing that I can see is "employers must keep all information concerning the medical condition or history of its applicants or employees, including information about psychiatric disability, confidential under the ADA."

This whole thing about a person being treated for depression for a couple of months, twenty years ago keeping him/her from owning a gun has me interested. Think I will do some more research on it.