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marksiwel wrote:

chartreuse wrote:

marksiwel wrote:I gotta believe 3rd hand smoke is a hazard, I believe that we do pollute a lot and that it effecting us (Look at the number of cancers and increase in birth defects) is it global warming? Maybe not, but is reducing pollution a bad thing?

Depends on a number of factors, I guess, but here's two for starters:
1: How do you define pollution? The EPA just classified CO2 as a pollutant, yet it's essential to the life of the plants that feed us and give us air to breath.
2: Is the "cure" worse than the "disease"? Yes, Cap and Trade, I'm looking at you...

Well Methane, Mercury and Lead are all on earth aka Natural, but how much of it do you want in your drinking water, food and air?

CO2 is essential to the life of the plants that feed us and give us air to breath. How are Methane, Mercury and Lead essential to the life of anything?

This thread is very interesting. A lot of discussion from many angles.

The person to fear the most is the one that says “I am doing this for your own good”.

marksiwel wrote:

Fangs wrote:All throughout this thread I was thinking about tossing in the exhaust fumes thing, and then VoiceofReason has to go rob me of that pleasure...

But seriously guys, if someone can smoke 2 packs a day and die at 90, then I very much doubt that your 3rd hand smoke off the walls are going to have any noticeable impact on your lifespan.

That having been said, the only people who have ever complained about the fumes my soldering lets off are smokers

Yeah theres tons of 90 year old smokers, here is where the rest of the old smokers hang out



As for banning fatty foods, does my hamburger give YOU cancer?

No but it can make you obese, give you a heart attack or stroke and raise my insurance rates.

I wonder how many fat people that had heart attacks are hanging around in there with the old smokers.

I find it ridiculous that people drive around sucking up exhaust fumes, brake dust and other pollution all day then if they smell a little tobacco smoke in passing they get belligerent. Next time you are stuck in traffic behind a truck and your car is full of exhaust fumes, get out, march right up there and tell the driver what you think.

Very few buildings allow indoor smoking any more. Rest assured you will not get cancer tomorrow from smelling a little tobacco smoke from the guy you pass on the street.

I have to wonder if the amount of “third hand smoke” is significant enough to have any affect. I also have to wonder if this “study” is similar to “studies” of handgun violence cited in an effort to enact more restrictive gun laws.

I don’t drink so it would not bother me if a 500% tax was placed on all alcoholic beverages. After all how many people do alcoholism and DWI kill and injure every year? How about banning fatty foods? They contribute to obesity, heart attack and stroke and raise insurance rates. I know three people that suffer migraine headaches triggered by strong perfume, aftershave or cologne. Let’s ban those.

Now having said that, a lot of “studies” have been done and articles published to demonize smokers. Sound like gun ownership? States and the federal government have added huge taxes on cigarettes. In this case taxation is not being used for the original purpose, to raise revenue. It is being used to control people’s behavior. Sound like ammunition taxes some states want? States and individuals have sued tobacco manufacturers. Sound familiar? The common theme here is if you can’t ban it, litigate or regulate it out of existence.

Let’s be careful what we jump up and want to ban. There are always others that want to ban what you do.