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by drjoker
Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:00 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Teen killed by Florida CHL'er
Replies: 81
Views: 17888

Re: Teen killed by Florida CHL'er

anomie wrote:
drjoker wrote:No, the cops went against S.O.P. (standard operating procedure) by not processing the entire scene and documenting everything.
How big is the scene? Where will the cops view as 'the scene' as being given where the shooting occurred? The SUV pulled out of the gas station, to somewhere, right? Then came back. If someone drives five blocks do you process and document the entire five blocks? Two blocks? How big does it have to be/how far would they have had to drive before not 'processing the entire scene' in the sense of processing absolutely every inch that they traveled, the night of the shooting, is not breaking SOP? (seriously asking).
Cops should've searched the gas station and the shopping center parking lot down the street where the red Durango drove to before returning to the gas station. Not securing the parking lot down the street meant that if there was a gun tossed out of the red Durango, the evidence would've been lost because the cops waited 4 days before conducting the search of the parking lot down the street. It would've been unreasonable to shut down traffic for 5 blocks to process evidence, but they could've at least taken photos of the street on the way to the shopping center parking lot. If there were bushes, trash cans, and storm drains along the way, they should've searched those, too. Also, any surveillance footage along the way and at the shopping center should be taken in as evidence.
by drjoker
Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:48 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Teen killed by Florida CHL'er
Replies: 81
Views: 17888

Re: Teen killed by Florida CHL'er

anomie wrote:Depending on exactly how that all went down, the delay in going to look could be entirely reasonable.
No, the cops went against S.O.P. (standard operating procedure) by not processing the entire scene and documenting everything. A wise older supervisor once told me when I was an intern, "If you didn't document it, then it didn't happen. You must document EVERYTHING meticulously because something that you didn't think was important at the time might turn out to be extremely important in the future."

My supervisor was right. When they invented DNA identification, the police evidence that was meticulously identified, documented, secured, and preserved with DNA intact was used to solve cold case murders decades after these crimes were committed. However, the cases where police work was shoddy and DNA evidence was lost, those murders remained unsolved.
Identify, document, secure and preserve evidence with proper containers, labels and preservatives.
http://www.nij.gov/topics/law-enforceme ... arrive.htm

I say there's probably a 40% chance that this guy will walk, but if he does, it is because of shoddy police work and police incompetence, not the "stand your ground law," but rest assured the liberals will try to use this to pressure legislators to strike down the stand you ground laws around the country.
by drjoker
Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:10 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Teen killed by Florida CHL'er
Replies: 81
Views: 17888

Re: Teen killed by Florida CHL'er

This whole case seems very fishy. TWO judges recused themselves from the case? WhY? Did big O threaten those judges unless they biased themselves for the state (against the defendant) ? I've never heard of TWO judges in a row recusing themselves from a case.

Why did the witness reverse his testimony from "they were stashing something" to "they were not trying to hide anything" ? Was the witness threatened by big O & gang?

Dunn is no Zimmerman. I don't trust the guy. However, this seems like reasonable doubt has been planted. If they guy walks, it is not because of the "stand your ground" law, but because of shoddy police work. The cops admittted that they did not do a thorough search of the crime scene until (drum roll) FOUR DAYS LATER! No doubt the libtard media is gonna blame the guy walking free on the "stand your ground" law instead of lazy deputies.
by drjoker
Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:32 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Teen killed by Florida CHL'er
Replies: 81
Views: 17888

Re: Teen killed by Florida CHL'er

I dunno, the guy said, "I thought it was a shotgun." Dude, it either is or isn't a shotgun. I could be wrong, but my gut tells me that he did NOT see a shotgun.

The boys claimed that they did not threaten his life, but I doubt it. They probably really did VERBALLY threaten his life. However, you can't shoot at someone for VERBALLY threatening you. The boys probably left their car and walked towards his car with a stick or some weapon that is NOT a shotgun. However, you can only use "Stand your ground" and "self defense" if you are reasonably fearing for your life. You could not possibly be fearing for your life if a pedestrian with no firearm is walking up to you with a stick while you are in your car because you can DRIVE AWAY.

He also went back to the hotel and ORDERED PIZZA instead of calling the police. Sounds like he was enjoying his last slice of pizza in the free world before being locked up for a very long time....

Witnesses state that the car he shot at did not toss out any shotgun. http://courtsandsportsradio.com/2013/0 ...

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