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by drjoker
Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:05 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Marine shot and killed by deputy
Replies: 27
Views: 2037

Re: Marine shot and killed by deputy

gigag04 wrote:I'm assuming the above was for me and not TAM...if I'm wrong, I apologize in advance.
oops, you're right it was meant for you (sorry!). I saw your avatar, Tex A & M, and my brain added it up, and voila! You're TAM.

Anyways, :cheers2:

stay cool and be safe out there....
by drjoker
Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:12 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Marine shot and killed by deputy
Replies: 27
Views: 2037

Re: Marine shot and killed by deputy

TAM, what assumptions? Everything I stated were facts. Here goes....

Let's see, on the 10th, the deputy said that he shot the marine because "he feared for his life." : http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 441S33.DTL

The guy he shot was a marine who had 3 good conduct medals: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... eputy.html

and he was also taking his daughters for a prayer walk, like he often does at 4:30 am before he starts work at 7:30 am: http://laist.com/2012/02/10/marine_shot ... deputy.php

and he was unarmed: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... -says.html

Now, here's the kicker, on the 11th, the deputy, faced with evidence on the dashcam and the marine's daughters' testimony that conflicts with his story, now CHANGES his story to say that he did not shoot because he was "in fear for his life," but actually shot the man to protect him from hurting his own daughters: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... -says.html

The deputy said that Marine Sargent Manny Loggins "crashed into the fence". That is a boldface LIE. Check out the photo from the news helicopter: http://missionviejo.patch.com/articles/ ... to-9077664

and a closeup photo: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... gious.html

Do you see a big hole in the fence? No. Is the car even touching the fence? Nope. Is there damage to Sargent Loggin's vehicle? no. Probably, he had a parking error and nudged the fence a little. I've done so myself many times. It's kinda hard to judge where the front of the car is sometimes.

Around the corner from my home, 2 years ago, a police officer here in Dallas, pointed his gun at a man so that he could use the pistol light on his gun as a means of illuminating the guy. Well, waddayaknow? The cop accidentally shoots the guy. This happened at a Jack in the Box where I dine every week.

At best, this is a screw up and the cop accidentally shot the marine. If so, he should just be a man and fess up instead of making up stories blaming the victim and then changing his story a day later.

At worst, this cop meant to shoot him and the cop tried to cover it up and realized that the story didn't fit the facts so he changed his story later.

Either way, the fact that he changed his story and LIED about the guy crashing his car just red flags the cop as a guilty perp. If it were the other way around and a civilian shot a cop because the cop was acting erratically, do you think the cops would arrest the civilian? Yes. So, I thought that in a democracy, "public servants" such as cops are supposed to get the same treatment as civilians? I didn't think that there was a caste system in Amerika. That cop should've been thrown in jail pending bail and/or a trial. The way events are unfolding is absolutely disgusting!
by drjoker
Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:24 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Marine shot and killed by deputy
Replies: 27
Views: 2037

Re: Marine shot and killed by deputy

n5wd wrote:Interesting. I hope the dash-cam and the other deputy's accounts match those of the girls, cause at first blush, this doesn't sound like an outright case of justifiable homicide on the part of the deputy.
There are great police officers, but this is not one of them. Police should be elected officials who could be ousted from office for bad behavior. This is definitely bad behavior. With the increasing militarization of our police force, events like these are increasingly common. With affirmative action programs, qualifications become increasingly irrelevant as prerequisites for hiring. That's why I have my own dashcam and I urge y'all to do the same for a measly $20-30 on ebay. What would be even better is a dashcam that can post to youtube immediately wirelessly so that the cops cannot delete it. I had a cop try to give me a ticket for running a red light when I did no such thing. It was the end of the month and he was trying to fill his quota. I pointed out my dashcam and politely told him that he might be mistaken. So, he wrote me a "warning" instead. Ugh....

Just be careful out there. The uniform is no guarantee of an upstanding citizen. Just like the rest of the general population, there are good and bad cops. The profession seems to attract a lot of power tripping control freaks who'll KILL you for disobeying an "order". The marine was not armed and did not threaten the police officer. He simply disobeyed an "order" and was killed for it. Ugh....

Bet you anything that this will be ruled another "justified" shooting just like the one in Las Vegas a la Erik Scott !

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