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by chabouk
Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:40 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin
Replies: 127
Views: 13787

Re: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin

DaveT wrote:
chabouk wrote:
DaveT wrote: One of the many calls I responded to that involved a subject with a gun was handled according to department procedure. I exited my patrol unit with service weapon in hand. After locating the subject, he refused instruction, choosing instead to raise his gun and fire a shot at me. I returned fire, he died.
Had this man informed the police in advance that he was going to conduct a public demonstration by carrying an unloaded shotgun on a sling?

Thank you for your service, and I'm sorry you were forced to take that shot, but the two situations are hardly analogous.
But then again, maybe you have more experience in this area than I do to back up your remarks?
But then again, do you really believe the two scenarios are analogous?
1. Man notifies the local PD in advance that he will be engaged in a legal demonstration with an unloaded shotgun slung over his shoulder.
2. Man is brandishing a gun in a threatening manner, and responds to your arrival by shooting at you.

Again: thank you for your service, and I'm sorry you went through that experience, but it's apples and oranges.
by chabouk
Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:35 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin
Replies: 127
Views: 13787

Re: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin

DaveT wrote: One of the many calls I responded to that involved a subject with a gun was handled according to department procedure. I exited my patrol unit with service weapon in hand. After locating the subject, he refused instruction, choosing instead to raise his gun and fire a shot at me. I returned fire, he died.
Had this man informed the police in advance that he was going to conduct a public demonstration by carrying an unloaded shotgun on a sling?

Thank you for your service, and I'm sorry you were forced to take that shot, but the two situations are hardly analogous.
by chabouk
Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:31 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin
Replies: 127
Views: 13787

Re: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin

DaveT wrote:This thread actually might have a positive result.
It just might be an opportunity for several of us
to get together and meet one another.....

when the Austin District Attorney's office subpoena's
us to come and testify that we tried our best to talk
'ifanyonecan' out of his proposed course of action. :banghead:
Did you miss the part where what he is proposing to do is not illegal?
by chabouk
Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:39 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin
Replies: 127
Views: 13787

Re: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin

suthdj wrote:
But, what you are proposing is not illegal. Unless you're carrying "in a manner calculated to cause alarm", i.e., you intend to alarm people, you're not in violation.
So somebody can call the cops and say they saw him, claim it causes them great fear, and the end result will be ?
The law says "calculated to cause", not "causes, whether warranted or not".
by chabouk
Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:55 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin
Replies: 127
Views: 13787

Re: Open Shotgun Carry in Austin

First, undertaking this particular form of activism is likely to get a lot of negative attention, including the possibility of arrest and charges being filed. I understand that you're looking to generate attention for a problem, so this might be an acceptable consequence for you. Sometimes you have to take a stand, so rock on if that's what you're willing to accept.

But, what you are proposing is not illegal. Unless you're carrying "in a manner calculated to cause alarm", i.e., you intend to alarm people, you're not in violation.

It doesn't matter what anyone says who used to be a cop, or who knows an attorney. It's still plainly legal.

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